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re: Need Camera Recommendation

Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:05 pm to
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The guy said $1000, not $3500 without a lens.

Plus, it's not the camera, it's the photographer. Deeprig nailed it, just because you own a $10,000 Les Paul, doesn't make you a great guitar player.
That's like saying you shouldn't spend a lot of money on great golf clubs unless you're already a great golfer.

Puleeze! Stop with this elitist, "got to learn your craft on mediocre equipment first" BS. That just sounds like YOU couldn't afford it when YOU learned the craft, so to be fair, everyone should do like YOU.

If a modern, state-of-the-art camera creates a really incredible image because the "new" photographer purchased equipment that is great and helps make it easier, sounds like you guys just want to marginalize someone that does that instead of embracing it and understanding how that can lead to more excitement and people developing a yearning to learn the craft. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261492 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Puleeze! Stop with this elitist, "got to learn your craft on mediocre equipment first" BS. That just sounds like YOU couldn't afford it when YOU learned the craft, so to be fair, everyone should do like YOU.


Yeah I don't buy into that either. However a 5k system is overkill for a novice.

Spend a grand on a good camera and a couple grand on some good glass. Used lenses are a great option.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:05 am to
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That's like saying you shouldn't spend a lot of money on great golf clubs unless you're already a great golfer.

Puleeze! Stop with this elitist, "got to learn your craft on mediocre equipment first" BS. That just sounds like YOU couldn't afford it when YOU learned the craft, so to be fair, everyone should do like YOU.

If a modern, state-of-the-art camera creates a really incredible image because the "new" photographer purchased equipment that is great and helps make it easier, sounds like you guys just want to marginalize someone that does that instead of embracing it and understanding how that can lead to more excitement and people developing a yearning to learn the craft. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.


I didn't recommend a mediocre camera, I recommended a very good, mid level camera, a Canon 60D.

That camera takes high quality photos as any high end camera. If I took my 70-200 and put it on a 60D and took a photo, than put the same lens on my professional grade 5D mkiii and took the same shot, you couldn't tell the difference unless you zoomed in to count the pixels.

People ask me all the time what camera they should buy. I always tell them if they want to learn a DSLR, go with a basic Canon Rebel (T3i or what ever they have out now). It's about a $400 camera with a basic kit lens. It can be use in manual and in full auto like a point and shoot. See if they really want to pursue photography before getting deep into a ton of equipment.

Cameras are not like golf clubs. A higher dollar camera doesn't take better photos than a beginner camera, it only allows you to do more things with more features and higher ISO.

DSLR cameras that were professional grade 15 years ago, are now probably lower quality than the mid level cameras now, and they produced unbelievable images.

I started off with a $500 T1i, moved up to a $1200 60D, and now carry a $2500 5Dmkiii. Plus I carry about $3500 in additional equipment (not including lenses I rent).

I actually bought a T3i from a friend and I carry it as a back up with my $2500 camera. I get great shots with it because I'll have one of my high dollar lenses on it. I just know the limitations of the camera, not going to get good low light shots, etc.
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