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How certain would you have to be to convict?

Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:45 am
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:45 am
If you're 99.9% sure the person's guilty, would this meet beyond a reasonable doubt to you?

What about 99%? 96%?
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:46 am to
quote:

If you're 99.9% sure the person's guilty, would this meet beyond a reasonable doubt to you?



Why wouldn't it?

I'd assume anything that would fall in that 0.1% isn't particularly reasonable.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40723 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:46 am to
50.1%
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21570 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:47 am to
Need to see the person.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

If you're 99.9% sure the person's guilty, would this meet beyond a reasonable doubt to you?

Yes
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5480 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:49 am to
Depends on prior convictions. 75% if it's repeated behavior
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:49 am to
Would be hilarious if you're asking this from a deliberation room right now.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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53115 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:52 am to
Depends how guilty they look
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:54 am to
i know by looking at them if they're guilty.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:54 am to
If he's a Florida fan, he's definitely guilty.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:56 am to
If it were a criminal trial and I had any doubt about the defendant's guilt, then I could not cast a guilty verdict in good conscience.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:57 am to
very circumstance dependent, but i would have to be at least 98% sure and even that's maybe a lit low.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:58 am to
Depends on the race of the suspect.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:01 am to
quote:

How certain would you have to be to convict?

Not very.

*Bookmarking thread for use in getting out of jury duty*
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36692 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:03 am to
Judging by some of the responses I've seen on here sometimes, some wouldn't have to be too certain. As for myself, I don't know about a percentage, but, I'd have to think it would depend on the case and the evidence brought forth by the prosecution. If they don't have enough evidence, I couldn't convict no matter how I felt.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:10 am to
Convict for what? Regardless, Nolo has a pretty good explanation of the required proof.

quote:

Courts over the years have debated the extent to which the government has to prove its case to meet this high standard. But it’s clear that, according to the standard, it’s not enough for the trier of fact to simply believe the defendant is guilty. Rather, the evidence must be so convincing that no reasonable person would ever question the defendant’s guilt. The standard requires that the evidence offer no logical explanation or conclusion other than that the defendant committed the crime. Courts sometimes describe this level of confidence in a verdict as a moral certainty.

“Beyond a reasonable doubt” doesn’t mean, however, that the prosecution must eliminate all  unreasonable  doubts a jury could possibly have. Nor must the prosecution prove the case beyond a shadow of a doubt or to an absolute certainty. These would be impossible burdens because only witnesses to an alleged crime can be certain—and even then, not all witnesses can be certain. Rather, this highest of standards requires—after consideration of all facts—only one logical conclusion: that the defendant is indeed guilty.

This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:14 am to
Something about the emperical rule. Something about three standard deviations.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

If you're 99.9% sure the person's guilty, would this meet beyond a reasonable doubt to you?
reasonable doubt is any room for doubt, so 99.9999999999999% would be enough for reasonable doubt

see: Casey Anthony
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4510 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

If you're 99.9% sure the person's guilty, would this meet beyond a reasonable doubt to you?

Beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean absolute certainty, but good luck on determining exactly what it is. I was on a jury a few months back and the jury instructions are pretty vague.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10320 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:03 pm to
How do you measure that?
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