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Why are people saying this is a step back? (Trans ban)

Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:32 pm
It was a step back to pander to a small percentage of society. I wish trump would have not mentioned money because that really isn't the problem. It's the fact that someone will join knowing they will be unfit for duty for at least 18 months while they are examined. I also hate the comparisons to segregation and don't ask don't tell. Blacks and gays are not unfit for duty unless they have HIV and that goes for everyone.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18822 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:38 pm to
I don't mind the money part. If they want to tout that number about 6,600 trans in current service (I doubt that), then multiply that by what I've seen as the cost of transition surgeries and treatment ($103,000).

That's a cool $679,800,000.

That does NOT include the sensitivity training any other serviceman has to go through. It also does not include any special accommodations that might have to be made, like adding additional bathrooms/showers to each and every facility.

FWIW, I don't see this as a step back.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23850 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:39 pm to
It's a step back because who gives a shite if some guy wears a dress and cuts his wiener off? Who cares if some chick wears pants and gets a forearm tattoo of an anchor? If they get the job done, who cares?

The step back is that our government wants to pick on these people and apparently wants us to pick on them also.

But i think it's safe to say that the vast majority of people have come to the conclusion that it isn't right to pick on these people. Let them do their jobs and live their lives, and we will do the same.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:46 pm to
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I also hate the comparisons to segregation and don't ask don't tell. Blacks and gays are not unfit for duty unless they have HIV and that goes for everyone.




I don't remember which idiot it was, but one of the resident MSNBC idiots last night said it was "Grotesque".
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57841 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:52 pm to
The people saying that are the ones who put more emphasis on social justices than national security and the budget. Some people are ignorant. Just no two ways around it
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112640 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:56 pm to
Some Marines are drafted. And they serve for no pay.

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