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re: I'm starting to sour on NOLA...
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
i dont think so either, id choose nola but i could see why someone would prefer austin
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:28 pm to fightin tigers
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So, your defense is to compare it to one of, arguably, the top 5 cities in the country
i mean at a certain point there has to be some sort of a comparison allowed
Nola had more population than Austin until very recently. nothing prevented Nola from being overlapped in population...except the structural issues this thread is discussing. that's kind of the point of this thread
it's like y'all are saying "OK Nola used to be better than these cities, but since they kept improving and Nola slid back, we can't compare them to Nola anymore"
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Houston is not a similar city. It has 2.5 million.
Austin is not similar. It has 947k people and growing.
Austin is not similar. It has 947k people and growing.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:28 pm to rocket31
If I could live in Austin circa 2001 that would be a different discussion.
It's literally almost mini-Dallas at this point
It's literally almost mini-Dallas at this point
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:29 pm to Burt Reynolds
Houston, Dallas, Austin are huge fricking places - like all top 10 in population last i checked
its a odd comparison
its a odd comparison
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:31 pm to rocket31
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Houston, Dallas, Austin are huge fricking places - like all top 10 in population last i checked
its a odd comparison
when i first went to austin (circa 2002), it was very close to Nola in population
the reason the comparison is made is b/c it's kept on making itself better while Nola has gotten worse (lost a ton of major companies/jobs in that timespan and lost population iirc)
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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have lived in both and all things being equal (friends, family, job) the crime is the only thing that would make me think about picking Austin over NOLA
Crime and the swimming options. No barton springs in nola.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:32 pm to rocket31
I think the assumption that Dallas or Atlanta is what all cities should aspire to be is a flawed one.
Nola can and should do more to address the structural problems we all acknowledge exist, but I think you can do that without turning into another cookie cutter corporate playground
Nola can and should do more to address the structural problems we all acknowledge exist, but I think you can do that without turning into another cookie cutter corporate playground
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the reason the comparison is made is b/c it's kept on making itself better
thats subjective
in some regard, austin has certainly gotten worse
many people who moved there 10 years ago are now leaving
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when i first went to austin (circa 2002), it was very close to Nola in population
the reason the comparison is made is b/c it's kept on making itself better
I think we have a fundamental disagreement about what better is.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Nola can and should do more to address the structural problems we all acknowledge exist, but I think you can do that without turning into another cookie cutter corporate playground
but the problem is that unless you provide that economic opportunity and build the top-level of your city's economy (while pushing the underclass away), those structural issues will never be solved (and likely get worse as the stagnant/backwards economy will cause companies to leave)
how else can you ever get the underclass to leave or at least re-set the population so that if it doesn't leave, it has little impact on your economy and political system? this is part of the bigger issue why LA is doomed as a state. we have catered to the underclass so much that they basically rule by the mob and prevent any real development
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
I mean, New Orleans was hit by the worst US natural disaster, and was about to be left for dead...but sure, Austin got it in population growth dawg!!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:36 pm to rocket31
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Houston, Dallas, Austin are huge fricking places - like all top 10 in population last i checked
its a odd comparison
FWIW - I think Austin may be number 11. San Antonio is top 10 though for city proper...still bigger than Dallas proper.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I think we have a fundamental disagreement about what better is.
i'm talking about creating opportunity for your population, which starts with economic opportunity
Nola is going backwards in that regard.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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think we have a fundamental disagreement about what better is.
I think some believe the more it is like Houston the better it is.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:39 pm to rocket31
Austin's downtown pales in comparison to NOLA's and it's three times as big in population.
Sixth street and rainey st. are okay. Frenchmen, oak st, freret, St. Charles, St. Claude, magazine, etc are better
Sixth street and rainey st. are okay. Frenchmen, oak st, freret, St. Charles, St. Claude, magazine, etc are better
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:39 pm to Lou Pai
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What, like a general apathy regarding basic conditions in a 1st world country? Not giving a shite about elementary concepts like timely/orderly waste disposal, repairing street surfaces, basic service industries getting shite done right and on time? Forgoing earnings potential and future prosperity in order to drink and eat out? Attracting no anchor industries outside of the service industry? Sign me up for some of that soul, baw!
Could include our crime cameras around the city, since when they break they are seldom repaired.
But our traffic cameras are maintained with utmost efficiency, particularly our new "innovative" mobile traffic cameras, and they are making a mint off of them.
They are supposed to put up "warning" signs that announce the presence of the mobile cameras in the area.
But they just put one up on that merge just beyond UNO where Leon Simon merges with Robert E. Lee right before you hit the intersection of Paris Avenue and REL.
If you're approaching the merge from Leon Simon, the "warning" sign is on your left up in the air nestled among the trees. The way it's positioned, it's going to be missed by a whole lot of people, which means more money for Mitch and his merry gang of brigands.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:40 pm to Spaulding Smails
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I mean, New Orleans was hit by the worst US natural disaster, and was about to be left for dead...but sure, Austin got it in population growth dawg!!
In fairness, before 2010, Nola hasn't seen a population increase for like 50 years.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:40 pm to Spaulding Smails
quote:New Orleans had a declining population and the same problems as now way before Katrina.
mean, New Orleans was hit by the worst US natural disaster, and was about to be left for dead...but sure, Austin got it in population growth dawg!!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:40 pm to c on z
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In fairness, before 2010, Nola hasn't seen a population increase for like 50 years.
yeah the population of like the 70s was posted earlier and it was way higher than it is now
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