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Trump is Right, John McCain is Not a Hero

Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:17 pm
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I am a conservative and a Republican, and I do not like anything about John McCain. He dumped his wife when she was injured in an accident, remarried into serious beer distribution money. His soft television interview voice belies the way he really is; mean, nasty, hot tempered, vindictive, a progressive, a back stabber (ask Palin) and quick to pretend and project he is a nice guy. Look at how he back stabbed and treated Sarah Palin after HIS engineered massive loss of the presidency–and that loss was all caused by him alone. To show his real colors towards our Constitution and the Second Amendment I learned he even he appeared on television and print ads in Colorado media advocating more gun control of its citizens during Colorado’s consideration of more gun control during the 2002 election period. Imagine, a Republican, Arizona U.S. senator traveling to another state to attack their Second Amendment Constitutional rights.


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McCain used to practice "wet starts" on his aircraft carrier. When a pilot wants to be a wise arse or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up–this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes (photo below) that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.
This stunt and aftermath caused the deathof 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this “little infraction” was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected service by the way). You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his arse network went into high gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.


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So when McCain was shot down and captured allegedly he, due to his father’s high rank the Communists were so impressed that McCain was offered up BY THE COMMUNISTS to be returned to the U.S. to show some type of recognition of his importance as the son of an active duty very powerful and influential U.S. Navy four star admiral (and he was). And then the fairy tale continues that McCain himself turned down the early release while still under the care of a communist doctor for his injuries so he could remain with his fellow prisoners for years and be tortured–oh sure! And remember, any information about his first hand refusal to stay a prisoner comes from him relating it to others


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Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37693 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:18 pm to
Let's see you do seven years in the Hanoi Hilton and see how tough you are.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:19 pm to
What year is this?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:24 pm to
Trump is a pussy arse ****. McCain, like him or not, actually fought and served a hellish nightmare as a pow. You deserve to be beaten for being so disrespectful and stupid.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47659 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:25 pm to
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a back stabber (ask Palin)


This is where he lost me.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7524 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:27 pm to
Go frick yourself. That man gave more to this country than you'll ever imagine. Doesn't mean he's always right on politics. But he is ABSOLUTELY an American Hero.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12721 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Burt Reynolds



Holy shite, you really do troll every single board.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35519 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:35 pm to
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a back stabber (ask Palin)

Can you elaborate on this? Not saying it's true or not but my recollection of the campaign is that Palin sunk herself on her own. If anything, he should be shite on for "tapping" her in the first place.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112584 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:42 pm to
All I now about this is that my golfing partner (fighter pilot in VN and same age as McCain) said that everyone knew he flunked the simulator tests but was passed because of his dad. He also had some bailouts causing loss of plane during non combat exercises. He had no business being a pilot which contributed to him being shot down.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:43 pm to
Why are you Swiftboating McCain? I mean, what purpose does it serve?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:44 pm to
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remarried into serious beer distribution money.
Hero or not, "serious money" & "beer" is a big part of my own American dream, not the remarried part though.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11329 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:45 pm to
A cousin of mine served on the Forrestal and has talked to me about it. He was a jet aircraft mechaninic and remembered it well.
Never mentioned that anyone was at fault> Said that there was an electrical malfunction that set off the missle. He said it was pretty dicey on deck for a pretty good while.
Yall want to talk about fake news? He never even mentioned anything about McCain.
Y'all should be ashamed questioning McCain's war record to glorify your idol.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:47 pm to
I stopped reading at "ask Palin". Sarah Palin should have never been VP. They picked her because of her gender because they thought it would get them votes. Lol @ blaming McCain for anything related to Palin.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:48 pm to
McCain is a fraud....dude is all bark and no bite.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118977 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

McCain used to practice "wet starts" on his aircraft carrier. When a pilot wants to be a wise arse or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up–this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes (photo below) that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.
This stunt and aftermath caused the deathof 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this “little infraction” was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected service by the way). You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his arse network went into high gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.


Wow. I did not know about this.

Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:11 pm to
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One incorrect but widely quoted theory has him triggering the Zuni missile with the exhaust of his own plane by "wet-starting" – deliberately dumping fuel into the afterburner before starting in order to shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. This is a preposterous notion. For one thing, A-4 jets flew at subsonic speeds and were not equipped with afterburners. According to the Military Analysis Network site maintained by the Federation of American Scientists, the A-4 was powered by a "Single, Pratt & Whitney, J-52-P-408A non-afterburning, turbojet engine." The manufacturer's description of the aircraft also describes the powerplant as "One 11,187-pound-thrust P&W J52-P408 engine," with no mention of an afterburner.

And while pilots tell us that a “wet start” is possible even without an afterburner, the theory fails for another reason. The tail of McCain's plane was pointed over the side of the carrier and away from other planes at the time, and the F4 Phantom fighter that fired the missile was facing McCain's plane from the opposite side of the deck, as shown in Caiella’s diagram, in other diagrams, and in Navy film of the fire.
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Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:35 pm to
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that loss was all caused by him alone


I made it to this part before I stopped reading this garbage. Don't get me wrong, it was garbage from the first word, but this is just a flat out lie.

I should've known when I saw LewRockwell.com
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18026 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Trump is Right, John McCain is Not a Hero


Ypu guys are so invested in Trump, you'll try to justify anything he says. Y'all have officially sold your soul. In what war did Trump serve? Get your head out his arse man.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:02 pm to
Yet each and every one of you lying pos alt-right nutjobs supported him 100% in his bed for presidency.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64462 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:25 pm to
You should as a act of common decency remove Burt as your avatar.

Maybe a flower instead.
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