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Dunkirk discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:03 pm
122 fresh, 6 rotten
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[Nolan has] found a way to harness that technique in service of a kind of heightened reality, one that feels more immersive and immediate than whatever concerns we check at the door when entering the cinema. - Peter Debruge, Variety
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Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk is a stone cold masterpiece. It's a stunningly immersive survival film told in 106 thrillingly realized minutes.-Lindsey Bahr, AP
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Christopher Nolan's largely bloodless but profoundly harrowing war epic is the best film he's ever made.- David Ehrlich, indieWire, A
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The story of a miracle should have been thrilling; but given the non-linear approach, "Dunkirk" lacks the kind of center that would prompt the audience to stand up and cheer.- Harvey Karten, Compuserve, C
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This is a film without heroes or a straightforward story. The action is the attraction. If that means some of the film feels a little distant and chilly, it's in the admirable service of avoiding simplistic drama.- Dave Calhoun, Time Out, 4/5
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Dunkirk may be [Nolan's] first historically based fiction, but it's his latest in a long line of survival puzzles, designed to thrill and to provoke the response moviemakers of all kinds have been after for more than a century: whew! Followed by: wow.- Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune, 3/4
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:04 pm to jackwoods4
lol we started at same time. I've RA to remove mine. Here's the first review...
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The fact that Nolan packs all this immersive action and national myth into a 106 minute movie should put every assembly-line technician/director conjuring up bloated two and a half hour wallows in digital spider men, apes, robots and raccoons to shame.
Great directors make great movies. And with “Dunkirk,” Christopher Nolan has made his second masterpiece, thrilling history retold, remembered and relished
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:09 pm to jackwoods4
any chance this gets over 100%?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:32 pm to jackwoods4
David Ehrlich, who, as far as critics I've read go, is about as big a fart sniffing movie snob as I've seen has called it Nolan's best film to date and an absolute masterpiece. I am intrigued.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:38 pm to jackwoods4
Down to 95%. I knew this movie would suck.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:43 pm to jackwoods4
First Nolan movie I'm excited for in years. Sounds like he's avoiding his past missteps. Give me a well-done war film.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:24 pm to jackwoods4
It's happening 
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:23 pm to jackwoods4
I'm going to have to wait until August 20 to see this in 70mm IMAX 
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:16 am to jackwoods4
I cannot wait to see this movie.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:35 am to jackwoods4
Has a score of 97 on metacritic...Wow
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:21 am to jackwoods4
It's got a 97 on metacritic. That's insane
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:14 pm to jackwoods4
Will be seeing this one Thursday in IMAX immediately after work
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:09 pm to jackwoods4
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non-linear approach
I was so excited until I read this. I hate non-linear narrative.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:22 am to jackwoods4
One place to start the story of Dunkirk is 1866. That is when modern Germany was created out of Prussia and dozens of smaller principalities. In 1870 Germany seriously kicked French booty, occupied Paris and forced the largest single surrender of all time. The Germans trapped an army of 104K soldiers and also emperor Napoleon III. That was actually near Sedan.
In 1914 the Germans planned to run that same play again. The French burned for revenge.
In 1914 the Germans were planning to drive through Belgium and down to gay Pareee. That didn’t work and a horrible stalemate ensued. Six million dead soldiers in France. The Brits deployed an army to help the French. They defended from the coast inward on the Allied Left. In one week in 1915 the Brits had 50,000 killed. The whole war in Viet Nam in a week.
As the German invasion of France loomed in 1940, the German General Staff planned to run the same plan. It didn’t work in 1914 of course. A junior general named Heinz Guderian was aghast. Not 1914 again!!
He got an appointment to see Hitler and sold him on the plan below.
Instead of attacking along the coast as in 1914, Guderian suggested a feint into Belgium which the Allies would react strongly to. Then knife into France south of that Allied force and drive to the to the coast. You can see Dunkirk on the map on the upper left.
The French and Brits did drive their best and most modern combat units into Belgium, playing the role the Germans wanted – to perfection. The Allies reacted to the 1914 plan.
Above: General Heinz Guderian, the architect of the German plan in 1940. Fittingly, this picture shows the emphasis the Germans placed on rapid communications. The device at the bottom of the picture is the Enigma decoding machine. It could do 900 billion billion computations. About this same time the Brits were beginning to break the code – which the Germans considered unbreakable. The Brits used the first real computer, code named COLOSSUS. COLOSSUS would take in a German coded message and spit out the decoded message in about 8 hours. COLOSSUS was the brain child of Alan Turing. He was a stone cold genius.
In 1914 the Germans planned to run that same play again. The French burned for revenge.
In 1914 the Germans were planning to drive through Belgium and down to gay Pareee. That didn’t work and a horrible stalemate ensued. Six million dead soldiers in France. The Brits deployed an army to help the French. They defended from the coast inward on the Allied Left. In one week in 1915 the Brits had 50,000 killed. The whole war in Viet Nam in a week.
As the German invasion of France loomed in 1940, the German General Staff planned to run the same plan. It didn’t work in 1914 of course. A junior general named Heinz Guderian was aghast. Not 1914 again!!
He got an appointment to see Hitler and sold him on the plan below.
Instead of attacking along the coast as in 1914, Guderian suggested a feint into Belgium which the Allies would react strongly to. Then knife into France south of that Allied force and drive to the to the coast. You can see Dunkirk on the map on the upper left.
The French and Brits did drive their best and most modern combat units into Belgium, playing the role the Germans wanted – to perfection. The Allies reacted to the 1914 plan.
Above: General Heinz Guderian, the architect of the German plan in 1940. Fittingly, this picture shows the emphasis the Germans placed on rapid communications. The device at the bottom of the picture is the Enigma decoding machine. It could do 900 billion billion computations. About this same time the Brits were beginning to break the code – which the Germans considered unbreakable. The Brits used the first real computer, code named COLOSSUS. COLOSSUS would take in a German coded message and spit out the decoded message in about 8 hours. COLOSSUS was the brain child of Alan Turing. He was a stone cold genius.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:35 pm to jackwoods4
The Brits don't seem too impressed...Two stars.
And this is their movie Saving Private Ryan made just for them.
Criminally under-represented in the annals of movie history, the wartime evacuation of Dunkirk has been crying out for a classic film interpretation to rank alongside genre leaders The Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far and Saving Private Ryan.
Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk, alas, just isn’t it. What it is, essentially, is 106 clamorous minutes of big-screen bombast that’s so concerned with its own spectacle and scale (shot on huge IMAX and 65mm cameras, for big frames and big action) that it neglects to deliver the most crucial element — drama...characters...drama, drama, drama.
- Times London
So the Brits are saying Nolan took a pivotal moment in their history and reduced those families and soldiers to comic-book characters...or worse...comic-book characters get a backstory...Nolan has taken this event and reduced it to a video-game. That's pissing on the memories of those who died and history just to appease teenagers and fanboys and shirk his duty as a film-maker.
And this is their movie Saving Private Ryan made just for them.
Criminally under-represented in the annals of movie history, the wartime evacuation of Dunkirk has been crying out for a classic film interpretation to rank alongside genre leaders The Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far and Saving Private Ryan.
Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk, alas, just isn’t it. What it is, essentially, is 106 clamorous minutes of big-screen bombast that’s so concerned with its own spectacle and scale (shot on huge IMAX and 65mm cameras, for big frames and big action) that it neglects to deliver the most crucial element — drama...characters...drama, drama, drama.
- Times London
So the Brits are saying Nolan took a pivotal moment in their history and reduced those families and soldiers to comic-book characters...or worse...comic-book characters get a backstory...Nolan has taken this event and reduced it to a video-game. That's pissing on the memories of those who died and history just to appease teenagers and fanboys and shirk his duty as a film-maker.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:34 pm to jackwoods4
Saw it last night in IMAX. I might go see it in 70mm since I don't have a 70mm IMAX in Oregon.
It was a fantastic movie. The audio was well done too. The opening scene...not spoiling.
I will say it's a bit choppy but if you're a paitient movie watcher, Nolan explains how it ties together usually in the next scene or two.
It was a fantastic movie. The audio was well done too. The opening scene...not spoiling.
I will say it's a bit choppy but if you're a paitient movie watcher, Nolan explains how it ties together usually in the next scene or two.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:24 pm to jackwoods4
Very good movie, but not in the same league as Saving Private Ryan. Zero character development. Probably will get the best cinematography Oscar.
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