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Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:40 pm to reo45
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This lesser than's are taking spots from those who are waiting to commit later in the process. Do not like this pickup whatsoever.
How many ranters on here complain about late-decision-hats-on-table drama queens? Maybe O is sending a message: "Get in or get out!"
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:49 pm to Teauxler
A TE that can catch, is tough, can block, is big, tall, and has strong hands to catch over the middle or jump balls. What else could you want? He is the definition of a balanced TE and could even grow into a 6'5, 6'6 kind of TE. I'll take it.
The folks looking at stars and rankings will be extremely surprised by this class when it's all done, I promise you that. I think I would trust Canada, O, Aranda, Robinson, and the assistants on the LSU staff getting up close and personal looks at these prospects before I trust some random click bait writer pleasing the masses. There is no way you can see then rank all these recruits nation wide accurately.
There are a few traits which are extremely important to football which aren't even considered on many occasions. Toughness, football smarts or awareness, and a players drive to be the best he can be or leadership. Speed, strength, and quickness all wear down quickly if you don't have the latter traits. HTTB
The folks looking at stars and rankings will be extremely surprised by this class when it's all done, I promise you that. I think I would trust Canada, O, Aranda, Robinson, and the assistants on the LSU staff getting up close and personal looks at these prospects before I trust some random click bait writer pleasing the masses. There is no way you can see then rank all these recruits nation wide accurately.
There are a few traits which are extremely important to football which aren't even considered on many occasions. Toughness, football smarts or awareness, and a players drive to be the best he can be or leadership. Speed, strength, and quickness all wear down quickly if you don't have the latter traits. HTTB
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:01 pm to tubucoco
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I figured that much with Canada as the OC, but it's still something people familiar with how LSU has used big TE's will have to get used to.
that's the thing. I can't remember LSU using the TE as anything but another OL.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:02 pm to reo45
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I've been positive throughout this process and just about every recruit, but this is ridiculous.
We have 2 tight ends we are pursuing in Spivey and Beal that are better and more athletic.
What the freak? This lesser than's are taking spots from those who are waiting to commit later in the process.
Do not like this pickup whatsoever.
Just my opinion, but if you watch his blocking and how he moves his feet, they might be hoping that he can morph into a Offensive Tackle.
Irregardless, Welcome aboard Zach.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:28 pm to Joe Mantegna
This kid plays ball at Nease HS which is 5 mins from my house. Will go watch this upcoming season and see if he stands out.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:37 pm to holdthattiger07
quote:I think the thing to note is that we used to not accept/pursue many 3*'s to hold spots for 4/5*'s that sometimes never came.
Why is everyone complaining about 3 stars soon to be 4 star recruits? We use to land 4/5 stars in abundance and that didn't transfer to championships under miles trust the staff
If you like them, think they can do some good then take the verbal. If they find somebody they like more, they'll drop you like a box of hot rocks. That goes both ways if you're playing the recruiting game right.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:58 pm to Vdrine
Or he could be used as seen in his film, which by the way isn't his latest film. A big tough TE who can help convert 3rd downs by setting up a block, by chiping then run a route, and get a big score in a goaline or redzone situation.
You want to recruit versital guys and that's what I see going on here. It may be why they aren't so highly rated because they don't do 1 thing the best but can do a multitude of things well. They may also display toughness and football smarts that the coaches like. Certain traits just can't be taught and are instilled in some football players. It's not like LSU is getting left over 3* players, we are picking who they see fits the team first idea.
The little athlete we picked up last night had great vision and cutting ability mixed with short field quickness. That guy playing at 205 to 210 will be a great slot WR who can also run the end around better than most. That's what I mean by fitting what you need. We might have a team full of guys they think can fill many other rolls so we just need to plug in a few holes the coaches feel can make our team whole. If LSU is offering then these recruits are standing out and do the things we need very well apparently.
I'm sure they are also looking into next years recruiting cycle to the recruits they believe they'll pick up to fill the voids at that time as well. Once all the voids are filled, you pick up the best players you can at the end to bring the best quality depth you can find.
You want to recruit versital guys and that's what I see going on here. It may be why they aren't so highly rated because they don't do 1 thing the best but can do a multitude of things well. They may also display toughness and football smarts that the coaches like. Certain traits just can't be taught and are instilled in some football players. It's not like LSU is getting left over 3* players, we are picking who they see fits the team first idea.
The little athlete we picked up last night had great vision and cutting ability mixed with short field quickness. That guy playing at 205 to 210 will be a great slot WR who can also run the end around better than most. That's what I mean by fitting what you need. We might have a team full of guys they think can fill many other rolls so we just need to plug in a few holes the coaches feel can make our team whole. If LSU is offering then these recruits are standing out and do the things we need very well apparently.
I'm sure they are also looking into next years recruiting cycle to the recruits they believe they'll pick up to fill the voids at that time as well. Once all the voids are filled, you pick up the best players you can at the end to bring the best quality depth you can find.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:02 pm to BayouBengal99
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Or he could be used as seen in his film, which by the way isn't his latest film
His junior film isn't his latest?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:05 pm to MOT
I saw his sophomore film and it looked decent to me.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:07 pm to BigSlick
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How many ranters on here complain about late-decision-hats-on-table drama queens? Maybe O is sending a message: "Get in or get out!"
This all day. I'd much rather have a 3* guy that will work his arse off than a 4 or 5* diva who just phones it in.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:44 pm to jladne3
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3 star U!!
Jacob Hester and the Honey Badger don't care
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:19 pm to Vdrine
It is definitely a different philosophy. I like the recruits we got so far and they all seemed undervalued as a whole, but Zach does not fit the bill for the type system Canada runs. It also is odd seeing that we have 2 players that are likely commits in Spivey and Beal that are better overall players.
But, it seems that the poster who said Coach O is telling kids your spot isn't secure and that you better commit or lose out, is spot on.
I hope it works out. I still am not crazy about this commit.
He reminds me of Tyler Edwards when he committed out of Ouachita a few years back (RIP). Same type player it looks like.
With Spivey you have a 6'6 220 athletic kid who is an athlete. He played basketball and has great hands. He plays for a poor program, but his talent is there.
As for Beal you have a physical tight end who also can go catch the ball at 6'5' 250.
As I said, this is the first head scratcher so far in my eyes. We have limited spots on offense and filling it up with players we don't necessarily have to take as of today is questionable at least.
But, it seems that the poster who said Coach O is telling kids your spot isn't secure and that you better commit or lose out, is spot on.
I hope it works out. I still am not crazy about this commit.
He reminds me of Tyler Edwards when he committed out of Ouachita a few years back (RIP). Same type player it looks like.
With Spivey you have a 6'6 220 athletic kid who is an athlete. He played basketball and has great hands. He plays for a poor program, but his talent is there.
As for Beal you have a physical tight end who also can go catch the ball at 6'5' 250.
As I said, this is the first head scratcher so far in my eyes. We have limited spots on offense and filling it up with players we don't necessarily have to take as of today is questionable at least.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:37 pm to reo45
Looks like a quality h-back for Canada's system to me.
Not a traditional TE...h-back.
Not a traditional TE...h-back.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:55 pm to BayouBengal99
quote:In HS yes, he was tall enough to be a really good TE, but he's a H-back all the way in college, and I seriously doubts he grows to 6'5 or 6'6. I have no qualms with the players that they are taking because they are pretty good and deserving. I'm just noticing that this class is almost full and wondering how are they gonna pull this off. Lol
He is the definition of a balanced TE and could even grow into a 6'5 or 6'6 TE kind of TE. I'll take it.
They are offering and getting verbals on all you can that's out there talent wise despite the star rankings, and then what, make the hard decisions to cut the players that are lesser rated I guess when the time comes. Would seem cold, but I don't know what they're doing, you can't sign 30+ or can you? lol I guess it all get figured out.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:06 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:Only under ole Les and it wasn't always like that. Early on when JaMarcus and Matt Flynn were there, he threw to the TE pretty decently. But as time moved on and he became more run dominant that's when it changed.
that's the thing. I can't remember LSU using the TE as anything but another OL.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 7:08 pm
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