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Is the Increasing Popularity of Alligator Gar Fishing threatening the resource?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:09 pm
I can remember people catching and eating gar since I was a little kid. However, the popularity of trophy hunting/fishing has seemingly increased greatly in the last 5-10 years. This seems to be even more associated with bow fishing where a catch and release is obviously impossible. I think social media and outdoor Television shows have created this increased popularity.
Considering the slow growth to larger sizes I wonder what the future holds for those trophy hunters and for the resource as a whole.
Life History and Status of Alligator Gar
N.B. I am in no way trying to trying to disparage any gar fisherman. Just sparking a little discussion.
Considering the slow growth to larger sizes I wonder what the future holds for those trophy hunters and for the resource as a whole.
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Young alligator gar apparently grow very fast; in Sam Rayburn Reservoir, Texas, fish thought to be young-of-year in 1965 averaged 1.1 kg by July 30 and 2.9 kg by October 6 (Toole 1971). Growth of older fish is much slower, taking about 10 years to attain a total length of 1 m and 30 or more years to reach a length of 2 m (Figure 1). Alligator gar mature between 950 and 1,400 mm total length (at age 10-14), with males maturing earlier than females (Ferrara 2001; Garcia de Leon et al. 2001). Although young fish grow fast, alligator gar are believed to be long-lived. Ferrara (2001) estimated annual survival of adult alligator gar exceeded 90% and found fish up to age 50 in an Alabama population receiving little harvest. However, maximum age of a heavily-exploited population in Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana was only 28 years. Maximum age of alligator gar in Lake Texoma, Oklahoma, was recently estimated to be greater than 30 years (E. Brinkman, Oklahoma State University, personal communication). Length-
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weight relationships for male and female alligator gar are similar (log10 W = 3.176 log10 L – 2.540; Garcia de Leon et al. 2001).
Relative to other gar species, alligator gar have the greatest capacity to overcome complete or partial year-class failures because they mature at the oldest age, are the most fecund, and have the highest adult survival (Ferrara 2001). However, low intrinsic rates of population increase indicate alligator gar are vulnerable to over-exploitation. Marine researchers have recommended setting the target levels of exploitation at < 10% for species similar to alligator gar that are long-lived and have very low rates of natural mortality (Walters and Pearse 1996; Codling et al. 2005). Ferrara (2001) postulated that mid-size adult alligator gar had the greatest influence on population growth rate and should be protected; limited harvest of older fish (> 25 years) did not cause population growth rates to decline substantially. Occupation of shallow spawning areas makes alligator gar highly vulnerable to sight fishing techniques such as bow fishing during spring and early summer. Male alligator gar may be especially vulnerable, because it is thought that they remain in the spawning area for extended periods (Suttkus 1963; Garcia de Leon et al. 2001).
Life History and Status of Alligator Gar
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Atractosteus spatula, with Recommendations for Management
Prepared by:
David L. Buckmeier
Heart of the Hills Fisheries Science Center
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, Inland Fisheries Division
5103 Junction Highway
Mountain Home, TX 78058
July 31, 2008
N.B. I am in no way trying to trying to disparage any gar fisherman. Just sparking a little discussion.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:13 pm to Bleeding purple
Fun Fact: As with tarpon, gar are more closely genetically related to people than other species of fish.
LSU did a report a few years ago showing the very real decline in alligator and spotted gar populations.
Loss of habitat being the primary concern.
LSU did a report a few years ago showing the very real decline in alligator and spotted gar populations.
Loss of habitat being the primary concern.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:13 pm to Bleeding purple
Gar scare the shite out of me so I'd be perfectly happy to see them go away.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:15 pm to Bleeding purple
Doesn't prove anything one way or the other, but I see them all the damn time when I'm bowfishing. Doing fine in my neck of the woods.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:26 pm to Bleeding purple
God damn bootlegger taking all the gar.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:27 pm to Bleeding purple
They were spawning on Toledo about 2 weeks ago. We kept hearing thrashing on the bank that was way bigger than carp.
I trolled over there and as I was trying to determine what was making the noise a 5 footer came sliding by my boat into the orgy. The fish was at least 5' long, probably 10 to 12" wide and I'd guess near 100 lbs.
The more we watched they were porpoising for air and shaking the flooded bushes like crazy. I guess one would lay eggs and the males would all charge in and inseminate.
It was a pile of at least 6 or 7. All of them beast around or over 100 pounds.
I trolled over there and as I was trying to determine what was making the noise a 5 footer came sliding by my boat into the orgy. The fish was at least 5' long, probably 10 to 12" wide and I'd guess near 100 lbs.
The more we watched they were porpoising for air and shaking the flooded bushes like crazy. I guess one would lay eggs and the males would all charge in and inseminate.
It was a pile of at least 6 or 7. All of them beast around or over 100 pounds.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:50 pm to Bleeding purple
I do my part by bashing every one I catch about the head with a boat paddle and slinging the nasty bastards up on the bank. I would not shed a tear if they went extinct.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:02 pm to Bleeding purple
I remember when the noodling craze started, all the biologists were screaming that they were decimating the catfish population.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:29 pm to Bleeding purple
Those are some cool facts I never knew about gar. Had no idea they live that long.
I remember as a kid being absolutely shocked to find out people eat gar. To me they were always just a fish my dad beat in the head and threw out.
I remember as a kid being absolutely shocked to find out people eat gar. To me they were always just a fish my dad beat in the head and threw out.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/16/17 at 1:43 pm to Bleeding purple
Definitely on decline, and I don't think it is solely due to fishing. Lack of education on the importance of gar, and the falsity of age old beliefs about the negative impact they have on game fish populations has just as much to do with it. Just look at this thread.
There is no GOOD reason to kill a gar, unless it be for food. They do not destroy game fish populations. In fact, the majority of their diet is composed of nongame fish, small native sunfishes that we do not typically consider game fish, frogs, lizards, etc.
The irrational fear of gar is another reason. People used to (and probably still do) tell stories about gar dragging children into the water, or attacking and eating people.
It's a sad state of affairs, and a lot of it, unfortunately, was due to false information promoted by game and fish agencies. And LDWF isn't doing any better now in educating people on the periles the species faces if bowfishing and senseless killing continues.
Bowfishing of alligator gars (or gars in general) should be outlawed (or severely limited), simply for the fact that you cannot release that fish. It is dead. And when it's one of those giants, a major dent has been put in the population.
There was surprise about an alligator gar being caught for the first time in maybe a century in Illinois...and it was arrowed. It's a real shame.
There is no GOOD reason to kill a gar, unless it be for food. They do not destroy game fish populations. In fact, the majority of their diet is composed of nongame fish, small native sunfishes that we do not typically consider game fish, frogs, lizards, etc.
The irrational fear of gar is another reason. People used to (and probably still do) tell stories about gar dragging children into the water, or attacking and eating people.
It's a sad state of affairs, and a lot of it, unfortunately, was due to false information promoted by game and fish agencies. And LDWF isn't doing any better now in educating people on the periles the species faces if bowfishing and senseless killing continues.
Bowfishing of alligator gars (or gars in general) should be outlawed (or severely limited), simply for the fact that you cannot release that fish. It is dead. And when it's one of those giants, a major dent has been put in the population.
There was surprise about an alligator gar being caught for the first time in maybe a century in Illinois...and it was arrowed. It's a real shame.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:56 am to Bleeding purple
I like to eat them me
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