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re: Let's talk Russia and vast Left Wing conspiracy.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:24 pm to Ebbandflow
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:24 pm to Ebbandflow
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Well we did put sanctions on them. You know, the sanctions Trump wanted to lift because, hey, we gots killers too
By sanctions you mean nixing a deal to give them 20% of our Uranium production that the Clintons helped set up in the first place?
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:28 pm to Ebbandflow
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Well we did put sanctions on them. You know, the sanctions Trump wanted to lift because, hey, we gots killers too
It's clear that you don't even know wtf you are talking about. Lifting sanctions has always been on the table. That's always been our leverage. Obama was no different.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:32 pm to crescentcity
One thing you can count on for sure and its neither left or right. Putin is enjoying the hell out of the political landscape in the USA right now. He is hoping that the situation devolves into a civil war. At this point, Russia is winning the shadow war and its not even close. Trump, while not a willing participant, continues to stir the pot. He doesn't even have to know his role in order to be an effective component of chaos. He just has to be himself.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:37 pm to Vacherie Saint
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It's clear that you don't even know wtf you are talking about. Lifting sanctions has always been on the table. That's always been our leverage. Obama was no different.
Youre clearly the one who is lost here. Obama put the sanctions in place. Trump lobbyed the American public, often like he shoe-horned it in speeches, to lift the sanctions. Congress does not agree.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
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YOU follow along, Junior. Both Dem and Repub administrations have been trying to normalize relations with Russia since the end of the Cold War. Either admit you are a hack or that you are uninformed, but don't come here and pretend that any of this is exclusive to Trump. That wont work here.
Should we be normalizing relations with a country that just completed a complicated operation to influence our electoral process? If so, what concessions is Trump extracting for normalizing relations? And if this normalization coincides with a degradation of our relations with our allies in Europe, is this a beneficial trade for us?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:41 pm to crescentcity
The investigation is ongoing and the truth will come out. What's concerning to me is the lack of interest on the conservative side to find out the truth. It's like they think nothing happened and continue to dismiss interference as a conspiracy theory. I say this, recognizing that Trump and his team very well may NOT have had contact with the Russians. If Republicans are so virtuous, why the lack of interest in finding out the truth, which will more than likely exonerate Trump & his team?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:42 pm to crescentcity
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All of this certainly deserves scrutiny and investigation. That's not a hoax.
Ok....
when you get done playing, clean up, thanks!
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:55 pm to Dignan
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The investigation is ongoing and the truth will come out. What's concerning to me is the lack of interest on the conservative side to find out the truth.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:00 pm to Vacherie Saint
Two days ago:
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Trump has always said he's smarter than our generals, though...
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U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Monday there was no indication that Russia wanted a positive relationship with the U.S., saying it had chosen to be a strategic competitor.
"At this time ... I do not see any indication that Mr. Putin would want a positive relationship with us. That is not to say we can't get there as we look for common ground," Mattis told a House Armed Services Committee hearing, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"But at this point, he has chosen to be competitive, a strategic competitor with us and we will have to deal with that as we see it," he said.
Joseph Dunford, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, added that the United States had an adversarial relationship with Russia.
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Trump has always said he's smarter than our generals, though...
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:00 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
Cute cartoon. Did you miss the part yesterday when Seasions confirmed that Russia interfered in our election? I get it, it's easier to simply say "Muh Russians" than actually seek the truth.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:04 pm to Dignan
Interfered yes. To what degree? Obama said they did not influence the election at all. So, they attempted to influence, but failed? In an election that took place while Obama was President? Better impeach Trump!
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:05 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
The only left wing conspiracy against Trump is by KFC.
It's a left wing, drumstick, and mashed potato conspiracy.
It's a left wing, drumstick, and mashed potato conspiracy.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:06 pm to Dignan
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Cute cartoon. Did you miss the part yesterday when Seasions confirmed that Russia interfered in our election? I get it, it's easier to simply say "Muh Russians" than actually seek the truth.
What does it matter? It changed no votes and you were so confident in Hillary crushing Trump that you made a ban bet with me(That you did honor). Now you are reduced to running with some lame Russian narrative.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:14 pm to MrLarson
You're right, I was surprised. We don't know if or how it influenced the election. But shouldn't we at least be curious when the FBI says it has evidence? Why not let the truth come out to exonerate Trump?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:18 pm to Ebbandflow
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Follow along: The reason it isnt good, aside from Putin being an authoritarian gangster who annexed a country and it trying to violently obtain Ukraine, is that it is glaringly obvious that Trump wanted it so badly. Its at least suspicious.
Follow along, the US forced their own defecting countries to rejoin the Union too.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:23 pm to crescentcity
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Let's talk Russia and vast Left Wing conspiracy.
Dude...why do you keep trying to convince people of your conspiracy theory's/fairytales. The focus is fixing to shift towards the libs....and it's coming. You're not changing anyone's mind on here with that BS....too late to the party. get over it...Trump will be your president til 2020...maybe longer, unless another one the hundreds of thousand unhinged libs. gets him.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:29 pm to Dignan
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Did you miss the part yesterday when Seasions confirmed that Russia interfered in our election? I get it, it's easier to simply say "Muh Russians" than actually seek the truth.
The Media and Democrats influenced the election more than the Russians did.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:33 pm to MrLarson
Btw, props to you for taking that bet. The odds were stacked against you and you had faith. In all sincerity, congrats on that one...
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:37 pm to Ebbandflow
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Youre clearly the one who is lost here. Obama put the sanctions in place. Trump lobbyed the American public, often like he shoe-horned it in speeches, to lift the sanctions. Congress does not agree.
bullshite. In 2009, Obama scrapped a planned missile defense shield in Eastern Europe to appease Putin. In 2012, he signed new start, dramatically reducing our nuclear defense capabilities against Russia while barely affecting their arsenal. He was also infamously caught unilaterally offering to lift sanctions once he became a lame duck in 2012. In 2013, he rubber stamped the Rosatom deal giving Russia control of 20% of US uranium production. In 2014, he again publicly offered to lift sanctions to get them out of the Ukraine.
You don't know wtf you are talking about.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:21 pm to Vacherie Saint
On 11 September 2014, US President Barack Obama said that the United States would join the EU in imposing tougher sanctions on Russia's financial, energy and defence sectors
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