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Getting a speeding ticket but didn't sign it
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:16 pm
A friend got an out of state speeding ticket for going 70 in a 45. After he gets home and looks at it, he notices at the bottom that it reads:
My signature signifies that I have received a copy of this violation notice. It is not an admission of guilt. I promise to appear for the hearing at the time and place instructed or pay the total collateral due.
The officer never asked for his signature when he was handed the ticket so the signature line is blank.
On the back of the ticket there is a section that reads:
NOTICE
If you fail to pay the amount due or to appear in court on the date and time scheduled, the United States District Court may issue a summons ordering you to appear or issue a warrant for your arrest. If you are charged with a motor vehicle violation, the court may also report your failure to pay or appear to your state's motor-vehicle or driver-licensing agency, which may affect your driving privileges, or your vehicle registration, or both.
Ticket is $350.
Should he just pay it or fight it?
My signature signifies that I have received a copy of this violation notice. It is not an admission of guilt. I promise to appear for the hearing at the time and place instructed or pay the total collateral due.
The officer never asked for his signature when he was handed the ticket so the signature line is blank.
On the back of the ticket there is a section that reads:
NOTICE
If you fail to pay the amount due or to appear in court on the date and time scheduled, the United States District Court may issue a summons ordering you to appear or issue a warrant for your arrest. If you are charged with a motor vehicle violation, the court may also report your failure to pay or appear to your state's motor-vehicle or driver-licensing agency, which may affect your driving privileges, or your vehicle registration, or both.
Ticket is $350.
Should he just pay it or fight it?
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:18 pm to BayouNation
Your buddy will probably still get jammed up if he fails to pay it.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:20 pm to BayouNation
There will be a signature on the cop's original come court time. Defective carbon.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:20 pm to BayouNation
roll the dice. let us know how it turns out.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:20 pm to BayouNation
quote:
A friend got an out of state speeding ticket for going 70 in a 45
Sounds like he deserves it, regardless if it was signed or not
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:21 pm to BayouNation
quote:
If you fail to pay the amount due or to appear in court on the date and time scheduled, the United States District Court may issue a summons ordering you to appear or issue a warrant for your arrest.
He got a ticket on federal property. This is not a ticket he wants to play around with.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:22 pm to BayouNation
quote:
the United States District Court may issue a summons
I probably wouldn't frick with that
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:22 pm to BayouNation
Did the cop sign it? If not he's home free
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:26 pm to BayouNation
You typed all that out for your friend? Ok
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:28 pm to BayouNation
quote:
United States District Court
Do not frick with federal court, not for $350 baw
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:28 pm to BayouNation
The signature is just proof of service
Your buddy could potentially not go to court and argue he never had proof of service as he didnt sign it, but then again the prosecutor could just put both the officer and your buddy (after then subpoenaing him at home) on the stand under the oath
the officer would testify that he did give the citation to your buddy but yes he forgot to make sure he signed it
your buddy could get on the stand and perjure himself
the facts of the traffic stop would not change just because your buddy didnt sign the ticket so thats not proof positive that he didnt commit whatever violation he was cited for, so he could still be found guilty of the speeding charge
i'd just go ahead and show up or pay it
Your buddy could potentially not go to court and argue he never had proof of service as he didnt sign it, but then again the prosecutor could just put both the officer and your buddy (after then subpoenaing him at home) on the stand under the oath
the officer would testify that he did give the citation to your buddy but yes he forgot to make sure he signed it
your buddy could get on the stand and perjure himself
the facts of the traffic stop would not change just because your buddy didnt sign the ticket so thats not proof positive that he didnt commit whatever violation he was cited for, so he could still be found guilty of the speeding charge
i'd just go ahead and show up or pay it
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:28 pm to BayouNation
My cousin tried the same shite and they shot him.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:29 pm to BayouNation
You probably won't win in court..just my $0.02.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:30 pm to BayouNation
What state were you in?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:30 pm to BayouNation
Any dashcam involved? Personal recording device on the cop? Oh, your "friend" doesn't know if he was on camera or not ya say. Yeah, no worries, out of state, out of mind. No way at all this could bite "him" in the arse.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:30 pm to BayouNation
As has been explained, the signature is just proof of service. He could be subpoened to show, and all the cop has to say is that "Yes, I did give him this ticket".
So he would have to go to court out of state, and end up paying way more in court costs.
Plus this sounds like it was on Federal property. Do NOT frick with that.
Pay it
So he would have to go to court out of state, and end up paying way more in court costs.
Plus this sounds like it was on Federal property. Do NOT frick with that.
Pay it
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:30 pm to BayouNation
Officer didn't get the signature. Therefore, the ticket never happened. Your friend saved $350.
Also, pay the ticket. Mistakes are for the gov, not your friend.
Also, pay the ticket. Mistakes are for the gov, not your friend.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:31 pm to BayouNation
quote:
A friend got an out of state speeding ticket for going 70 in a 45.
quote:
the United States District Court
where the frick was he speeding? a reservation? a military base?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:31 pm to BayouNation
doing the right thing, and the hard thing are usually the same thing.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:42 pm to BayouNation
Tell him to go hide out in the woods for six weeks after the court date and maybe they will forget it.
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