re: Cholesterol Code study

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I am by no means an expert in dietary matters but the Keto diet appears to another version of the Atkins diet, which to me seems a very dangerous diet.

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A to Z study from Stanford researcher who is a vegan...

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Over 300 free-living pre-menopausal, overweight women were randomly assigned to follow either the Atkins (extremely low carbohydrate), Zone (low-carbohydrate, high protein), Ornish (very low fat), or USDA/Food LEARN (high carbohydrate/moderate-low fat) diet for 1 year. At the completion of the study, the women assigned to follow the Atkins diet lost more weight (~10 pounds average weight lost in 1 year) and also experienced metabolic effects that were comparable with or more beneficial than the other participants.

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Lots of info in the thread below

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The info below is from other threads, but makes the point:

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Whole food - I agree with the food quality sentiment
As little animal protein/fat - Conventional grain fed animals/fat and omega 6 rich oils = yes /bad
Grass fed animals /fats with omega 3 profile = good

The name of the longevity and quality of life game is to:

-maximize / optimize glucose partitioning
-practice relative caloric restriction
-preserve healthy skeletal muscle mass (the metabolic site optimizing glucose partitioning) while not overpromoting IGF-1 pathway (tumorigenic)
-optimizing the gut microbiome

A diet high in fat with moderate protein and relative carbohydrate restriction accomplishes the goals above while maintaining a robust quality of life. Strong hormonal satiety is invoked by a diet high in fat/protein. This allows for interval episodes of fasting (intermittent fasting) and less meals per day (if you believe in the limiting exposures to food additives sort of logic). Most would argue that this is the way the human species evolved to eat and manage food scarcity. In modern times it promotes compliance with a dietary lifestyle change.

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Earn your carbs (as some posters have already pointed out).

2nd heuristic is to eat items that are closer in the food chain to the sun. Example:
plants (fruits ,vegetable) are great
animals (meat/natural fats) and animal products (eggs) that eat grass (great)
highly refined foods in boxes / fast food that have been adulterated by human hands (not so good)

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I think that for some folks it is a verbiage problem

If you ask most people to describe "fatty" foods they will list off foods like:

Cheeseburgers
Fried catfish

While these foods do have fat in them, they are metabolic bombs also made up carbs (bread or breaded products) + high heat oxidized, refined oils. They also happen to be commonly ingested with deep fried carbohydrate sources (fries). I get the sense that this is the type of foods that people view as "fatty foods". Ironically, they are correct using this descriptor of the downstream effects these foods cause (not necessarily its macronutrient makeup). The more appropriate term would be "fattening"

In reality, the fats we refer to are:

grass fed meats (beef, pork, chicken) - think a grilled steak drizzled with olive oil and paired with steamed veggies and a salad with boiled eggs/cheese/bacon/avocado in it

fish - salmon (or most types are fine, wild better than farm)

full fat dairy, yogurt, eggs

oils - coconut, olive, avocado, MCT

nuts

The other big hangup for some is the caloric load of fat (I will refrain from getting starting on this topic....). Those who view the human body a spreadsheet have difficulty getting around this

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I am by no means an expert in dietary matters but the Keto diet appears to another version of the Atkins diet, which to me seems a very dangerous diet.

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How so?

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Greasy, fatty meats that are clogging arteries and causing heart diseases.

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I eat 50-70% of my calories as fat. Most of the rest protein. With high quality meat, I think that's the healthiest.