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re: Pics added. Looking for suggestions on a creek crossing
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:55 pm to yattan
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:55 pm to yattan
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. I have seen used RR flat bed cars used also.
Was just going to post this. This type of equipment is scrapped quite often when they reach a mandatory life cycle which is normally 50 years. They Can be 50 to 75 feet long. They are damn sturdy. I heard of people using them a bridges many times.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:08 am to TygerDurden
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I have seen used RR flat bed cars used also.
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Was just going to post this. This type of equipment is scrapped quite often when they reach a mandatory life cycle which is normally 50 years. They Can be 50 to 75 feet long. They are damn sturdy. I heard of people using them a bridges many times.
City/Parish governments use them too.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:11 am to FelicianaTigerfan
What is your budget? And what kind of equipment do you have available to you?
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:23 am to crankbait
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Only option is a concrete pad which is common in oil/gas back roads.
This
There is a creek crossing at my friends hunting camp on Clark Creek in MS. The oil/gas guys poured a pad many years back and it has been fine year after year.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:51 am to MahiFishn
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What is your budget?
That depends on how long term the solution is. Don't want to spend 3k on something ill have to come back and do a few years down the road.
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And what kind of equipment do you have available to you?
Free, a mini ex, and tractor with front end loader. Can get a dozer and mid size trackhoe for a price
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:52 am to 4WHLN
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Only option is a concrete pad which is common in oil/gas back roads. This There is a creek crossing at my friends hunting camp on Clark Creek in MS. The oil/gas guys poured a pad many years back and it has been fine year after year.
That's really what id like to do but have no idea if its something I can do on my own or not
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:08 am to FelicianaTigerfan
You need some mats like this. No clue where you can get them though.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:13 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Would you be able to get cement trucks nearby? My dad's neighbor made a boat launch. He would pour a 8'x 10' slab then push it down the hill with his front end loader. He made 4 or 5 slabs and would push them down until he had it far enough down.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:16 am to FelicianaTigerfan
If it's low then ford the river. If it's high Caulk the wagon and float across. I assume you can't take the ferry?
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:41 am to CootKilla
We actually have some of those on a crossing. A strong current will roll those up.
They use those on pipelines around here. A mat of those is about 1500
They use those on pipelines around here. A mat of those is about 1500
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:49 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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May just lay cross ties down and see how it does
Better research this and see if it is legal to do this first. Here in Virginia and some other states, putting treated crossties in a creek for any reason is strictly forbidden. EPA and your local health department and your G & F departments could possibly make this solution a very expensive endeavor on your part.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:52 am to CootKilla
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You need some mats like this. No clue where you can get them though.
A company called Submar makes mats like those.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:55 am to FelicianaTigerfan
If you have high water flow and debris (trees) flowing during high water events, you have 2 choices.
1. Build a solid "mat" on the bottom. As someone suggested, building it out of concrete sacks will probably work. Those articulated mats used in the oilfield and in the river to reduce scour would also work, but I'm not sure you can get the equipment needed to deliver them out to the site.
2. A bridge would work, but you will need to build it high enough to stay above the high water AND minimize the piles or supports in the water. Anything in the water will cause debris to catch and eventually build up enough force from the water that the bridge will fail. Otherwise, the water backs up and flows over or around it and washes out the approaches.
1. Build a solid "mat" on the bottom. As someone suggested, building it out of concrete sacks will probably work. Those articulated mats used in the oilfield and in the river to reduce scour would also work, but I'm not sure you can get the equipment needed to deliver them out to the site.
2. A bridge would work, but you will need to build it high enough to stay above the high water AND minimize the piles or supports in the water. Anything in the water will cause debris to catch and eventually build up enough force from the water that the bridge will fail. Otherwise, the water backs up and flows over or around it and washes out the approaches.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:22 am to Boudreaux35
Your only option is a low water crossing
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:33 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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We actually have some of those on a crossing. A strong current will roll those up.
They use those on pipelines around here. A mat of those is about 1500
I can more than likely get you some rejects for way cheaper than that.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:08 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
The best ones I've seen are paved. Wait until it dries out and pave it w quikcrete like 15 feet on each side then use gravel the remainder. 10 ft wide is enough for a truck to slowly go over it. The water will run over it w no hang ups. If it's never completely dry then I like the quikcrete idea or using the 4 inch thick pavers from Lowe's.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:04 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I have similar situation. You have to choose another site or build up your end approaches on both sides. An old trailer house frame set on jersey barriers on both sides, then I welded 2" angle spaced 1' apart all the way across...I suppose you could use deck boards but the angle was free to me....tractors, trucks, atvs are no problem....
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:26 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Get some steel cable and make some concrete mats
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:44 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Concrete mats that let the water flow over the top without eroding would be ideal. Contech makes some armorflex mats for this purpose.
You can't just set the mats on the creek bottom. You need to dig out the upstream and downstream limits and bury the ends. Contech Low Water Crossing
You can't just set the mats on the creek bottom. You need to dig out the upstream and downstream limits and bury the ends. Contech Low Water Crossing
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