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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans

Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:53 am to
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:53 am to
That's fine bud

We got the Dubs vs the Pops today, a game 7 tomorrow, and the lottery Tuesday. Lots of hoops.

I just don't see the Cousins/Davis talk being very productive until the roster shakes out. Plenty of people doing a very good job of "what could be" via articles. Those 2 + Gentry's traditional coaching desires mix like oil and water. I'm hardly alone in that opinion questioning his fit. I'm hoping Gentry is reading a lot more 10 seconds or more and less 7 seconds or less this summer.

Traditional PGs are a dying breed in this league and imo watching the success of DJ and Blake in Flop City shows a blue print of how to bare bones this thing.

1 coulda been had for a Derrick Rose esque package at the deadline.

1 is a free agent.

The next 2 closest things to those 2 are two of the top 4 players in the MVP race (Harden and James). I'm talking ball handlers able to get to spots on floor, run PNR and make people better. So 4 guys I count and 2 are untouchable and 1 balled out post ASB to "do we have assets"?

That is why this subject intrigues me. We are talking Davis/Cousins and what to do with them in my mind. Unfortunately for us, our best shot at maximizing with Gentry around is landing a miracle.

ETA: when the dust settles on FA, I'm sure we'll discuss plenty how to deploy. I will say for me, Solomon Hill's sole job is to set off ball screens for Davis and Cousins. No more standing around waiting to chuck threes. Use that 240 lb frame to make life easier.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 11:12 am
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 5:02 pm to
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I will say for me, Solomon Hill's sole job is to set off ball screens for Davis and Cousins. No more standing around waiting to chuck threes. Use that 240 lb frame to make life easier.

That's a good suggestion.

While we're on the topic of Hill, does anyone here think he can do whatever Dante did last offseason and become a 38%+ 3-point shooter?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61581 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:16 pm to
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I'm hoping Gentry is reading a lot more 10 seconds or more and less 7 seconds or less this summer.


He said as much in the recent Woj interview. Gentry seems to believe in ball movement and spacing more than pace, even though he does care about pace. And regarding pace, I think Cousins pushes the ball up court quicker off a rebound than any guard he's had to pass it to. Gentry may not be a solution but I really don't think he's a problem either. MM is right, as much as we argue about coaches and GMs and Holiday and trading for a PG, this team will go as far as AD/DC take it. When they were at their best last season it was all about those 2 coming up big either individually or together. They made Jordan Crawford look like prime Jamal Crawford.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:32 am to
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I just don't see the Cousins/Davis talk being very productive until the roster shakes out.


not sure how you can adjust the roster if you don't know what you want Davis/Cousins to be doing.

as you're pointing out, a ball handler/creator is a priority. but how you plan on using Cousins/Davis alters what you may want out of that spot. if Davis/Cousins are such good creators, why not just use them to deal out of high post a la Denver? why feel the need to add a ball dominant pg to take the ball out of their hands?

it's not always about the most talent possible. fit matters. egos matter. it's chemistry, not algebra.


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Those 2 + Gentry's traditional coaching desires mix like oil and water


dont think it's as bad as that. certainly, they need to crash the offensive glass more. and they have to throttle the green light for guards jacking up first available jumpers early in the shot clock.

but pushing the ball up quickly and playing with tempo in the half court (ball + man movement) is not incompatible w/ those two bigs. i do not at all buy the "put Cousins/Davis on the block and grind it out" prescription.

now, the question is- can Gentry get guys to do that? quite right to be skeptical there




Re: Hill- he took too many above the break 3s, but he did take about 35% from the corners (96 attempts...Cunningham was at 128). and hit those at 38.5% (42% from the left, 33% from the right- Cunningham was the opposite 34% left, 45% right for 39.8% overall). not saying to expect miracles, but there may be something there to work with.
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