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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans
Posted on 5/13/17 at 4:37 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 5/13/17 at 4:37 pm to ShamelessPel
so i misquoted....i disagree with this
yes. Cleveland and GS have the best talent. they are not 3 man rosters though. what Cleveland has done filling their roster has been smart. and GS has done a good job the past 3 years finding and developing bench players
also, when we talk about Big 3s, there is not one that formed that didn't result in that in some statistical give back from at least one member of that club. you can't just pencil in 27/12 from Davis and Cousins + Paul's 18/12. how those guys get those numbers has to change b/c they can't all dominate the ball the way they are used to when playing with each other.
figuring out the best way to maximize Davis/Cousins together is much more interesting and important to me at this moment than fantasizing about Paul or George or whomever forming a super team.
this is the second or third comment in this thread dumping on Jordan's offensive impact. that is wrong IMO. yes he is not a guy you can ask to ever get you a bucket or take a shot outside the RA or often keep on the floor b/c he can't shoot FTs. that last one, especially, is a huge limit.
but denying the power of a guy happy to screen and roll hard to the rim who can elevate, catch, and finish is foolish. vertical floor stretching is impactful- teams aren't going to let Jordan stroll down the lane for a thunderous dunk; where does that help come from? that is a skill- the timing is important. and not every team has guys able or even willing to dive knowing they will probably get mugged and won't see the ball most of the time
we got to watch this action first hand w/ Tyson Chandler diving and creating open shots for West and Peja. it wasn't the same with Emeka Okafor rolling to the rim
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And as much as people want to crow about having deep rosters to compete, who's gonna be in the finals? Cleveland and GSW. Who's the two teams in the league that have a legit big 3
yes. Cleveland and GS have the best talent. they are not 3 man rosters though. what Cleveland has done filling their roster has been smart. and GS has done a good job the past 3 years finding and developing bench players
also, when we talk about Big 3s, there is not one that formed that didn't result in that in some statistical give back from at least one member of that club. you can't just pencil in 27/12 from Davis and Cousins + Paul's 18/12. how those guys get those numbers has to change b/c they can't all dominate the ball the way they are used to when playing with each other.
figuring out the best way to maximize Davis/Cousins together is much more interesting and important to me at this moment than fantasizing about Paul or George or whomever forming a super team.
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Jordan's full offensive game was built around Paul/Griffin creating lobs/dump offs
this is the second or third comment in this thread dumping on Jordan's offensive impact. that is wrong IMO. yes he is not a guy you can ask to ever get you a bucket or take a shot outside the RA or often keep on the floor b/c he can't shoot FTs. that last one, especially, is a huge limit.
but denying the power of a guy happy to screen and roll hard to the rim who can elevate, catch, and finish is foolish. vertical floor stretching is impactful- teams aren't going to let Jordan stroll down the lane for a thunderous dunk; where does that help come from? that is a skill- the timing is important. and not every team has guys able or even willing to dive knowing they will probably get mugged and won't see the ball most of the time
we got to watch this action first hand w/ Tyson Chandler diving and creating open shots for West and Peja. it wasn't the same with Emeka Okafor rolling to the rim
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 5/13/17 at 10:33 pm to corndeaux
Someone's stats suffer, yes. Likely with this mixture a little of all 3. CP3 could easily lead the league in assists. Davis and Cousins may dip down to 22-25 a game with Paul chipping in 16-17. You just watch where these games are won in the last 3-4 minutes. You NEED guys who can create and finish. We'd have 3 get it and move out of the way and 3 lethal pick n roll combinations.
Stephen A Smith isn't dumb. There has to be something here talent wise for him to name drop the lowly Pelicans on TV as CP3's should be destination.
My biggest pro is CP3 being able to counter my perceived lack of Gentry being able to integrate these two to their max potential. Gentry may be many things, but he's not dumb enough to get in the way of Chris being Chris.
Stephen A Smith isn't dumb. There has to be something here talent wise for him to name drop the lowly Pelicans on TV as CP3's should be destination.
My biggest pro is CP3 being able to counter my perceived lack of Gentry being able to integrate these two to their max potential. Gentry may be many things, but he's not dumb enough to get in the way of Chris being Chris.
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