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re: Je ne suis pas Francais
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:23 pm to skiptumahloo
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:23 pm to skiptumahloo
Over Macron for sure. I disagree with most everything about Le Pen but she sees the biggest picture and has the guts to speak on it and I respect that.
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:25 pm to RandySavage
Je suis Pierre, le fromage-mangeant singe de reddition.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:27 pm to Pistol...2K4
Anyway, Francois.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:30 pm to RandySavage
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I'm no Socialist but between that and Sharia it's an easy call.
Look through out history and find very successful socialist/nationalist countries.
Here is a hint, it doesn't end well.
Sharia isn't going to rule France.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:38 pm to Mo Jeaux
Of course they will have a voice, but Germany will ultimately have control.
Germany has effectively accomplished what they set out to accomplish militarily and sjw clowns in this country actually cheer it on bc they are too invested in the politics of multiculturalism to see the reality of the situation. Immigration issues are the ultimate diversion.
USA, Britain, and Russia have rejected German hegemony over continental Europe, nothing new under the sun.
Germany has effectively accomplished what they set out to accomplish militarily and sjw clowns in this country actually cheer it on bc they are too invested in the politics of multiculturalism to see the reality of the situation. Immigration issues are the ultimate diversion.
USA, Britain, and Russia have rejected German hegemony over continental Europe, nothing new under the sun.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:40 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Sharia isn't going to rule France.
It's like people think that French Muslims are this super organized, monolithic block. They aren't, and haven't organized themselves politically at all, either integrating very well (like Zidane, who is the son of Algerian Muslim immigrants) or not integrating (like the Hebdo attackers).
While the Algerians make up one of the largest blocks, the diversity of nationality serves as a bulwark to political organization.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:42 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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The president they just elected said that terrorism is part of their society now. They don't mind apparently, so you shouldn't either.
I guess we will have to muster the resources to save their asses a third time.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Look through out history and find very successful socialist/nationalist countries.
Here is a hint, it doesn't end well.
Look at the Middle East since Muhammad. As bad as Socialism/Communism is, it's much better, which is really saying quite a lot.
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Sharia isn't going to rule France.
I'm not one of these who is going to pretend like it's going to happen in the next 5-10 years. Hell it won't even be in my, or my kids, lifetime. However, France and the rest of Western Europe are headed in that direction and it will end that way unless they wake up and smell the Tamarind.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:44 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I think France will have more leverage in the EU than you think. Particularly after Brexit is effected.
They have a lot of leverage right now. After Brexit, I wonder if English will retain its status as a procedural language. From what Juncker said recently, I think there is a chance it would lose that status. That would leave French and German. Many of the large international organizations use French quite a bit as well.
The EU is as much a French-German axis as it is one for Europe. The driving force behind it was to prevent French-German enmity from involving the entire continent, and their choice was to integrate to a degree that war would be difficult.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:49 pm to RandySavage
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Look at the Middle East since Muhammad. As bad as Socialism/Communism is, it's much better, which is really saying quite a lot.
That's an incredible amount of time. The wealth of Islamic empires of West and Central Asia was significant. Control of overland trade routes drove Europeans for other routes, which lead to the New World and those riches. After the fall of the Ottomans, the wealth of those areas suffered, so much so that some places are worse off than they were 100 years ago. So it's not a true statement to say that Socialism/Communism (two different things) are better. Marxist Communism has been terrible, and has killed quite a lot of people in China and the USSR. I'd also wager that Islamism has had a lower number of total deaths than Arab Socialism or Western intervention in Ba'ath countries.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:56 pm to RandySavage
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Over Macron for sure. I disagree with most everything about Le Pen but she sees the biggest picture and has the guts to speak on it and I respect that.
France is in a very tough spot. Neither Macron , nor Le Pen have the solution to cure what ails it economically(Fillon had the best ideas). I really wanted to like Le Pen(her hot niece follows me on Instagram and all...) , but she would've wrecked the economy there and elsewhere if her policies were enacted.
Like the OP , I love French culture , history and heritage. Hell , I import , and distribute a number of small estate wines from all over France , so I have skin in the game. Business will go on as usual , but it is very sad to watch some of her people being sacrificed as what their government deems to be acceptable losses.
What works there is different than what works in the USA , and I'm thankful for that.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:08 pm to RandySavage
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More sad but then I actually appreciate historic cultures and beautiful places and would like for them to stay that way.
You've obviously not been to Paris lately.
It's 1970s NYC.
Now, up north (except Paris and suburbs) is still Conservative and still beautiful, but it will not remain that way for long ... I give it two decades tops before France turns into another Belgium.
Conservative Catholics in France are fighting a losing war and they know it after today.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:36 am to crazy4lsu
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Marxist Communism has been terrible, and has killed quite a lot of people in China and the USSR.
Authoritarian regimes have killed people, not a form of shared resources. But back to your ignorance
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:55 am to Ebbandflow
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Authoritarian regimes have killed people, not a form of shared resources. But back to your ignorance
Wait. What? You dumb son of a bitch.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:16 am to RandySavage
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Je ne suis pas Francais
Bah tais-toi alors, ça t'évitera de raconter n'importe quoi.
Kinda fun (or sad) to see dumb people convinced that Le Pen had great ideas to stop terrorists.. Spoiler alert, kicking out french (to where ??)) ecologists was not going to help. Truth is Le Pen president = lots of new recruits for terrorists.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:26 am to scrooster
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I give it two decades tops before France turns into another Belgium.
What is this supposed to mean? I was just in Brussels and it was one of my favorite places. I got hammered and then watched some fireworks with some of the locals.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:09 am to Pistol...2K4
quote:Where have I heard that before?
Neither of the 2 people running today were the best solution for France anyways.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:42 am to Jorts R Us
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It's pathetic that you'd let politics affect your sympathy for human tragedy.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:07 am to HubbaBubba
no comparison between here and there....yeah we have welfare but theirs is out of control. Eventually someone has to end up paying the bill for 'free shite for everyone , and we're only working 30 hours a week with a months vacation'. nationalizing the banks and other industries as Le Pen wanted to do is the wrong idea. Sorry , but that's communism
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