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Lester Earl Mock Draft 2.0

Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:56 pm
1.11 Gareon Conley, CB Ohio State

Thoughts: Ideally would like to nab a DL, but I don’t see anyone available that will match value of pick 11. Many people hated my mock 4 weeks ago where I had the Saints choosing Conley, but he has shot up boards recently. Conley is an athletic(6' 195 4.44), long armed(33") CB that doesn’t panic with the ball in the air. He's a 2 year starter that could challenge Lattimore for 1st CB taken. With the Butler deal seemingly off the table, CB becomes an immediate need.

2nd choice: 3 Guys that I could see the Saints eyeing would be Haason Reddick, Christian McCaffery, or fan favorite Derek Barnett. Reddick would bring some athleticism to our LB corp as well as some pass rush ability. McCaffery could be the satellite back we have lacked since Sprole's departure. Barnett's athleticism remains in question but has the intangibles to be a solid NFL player.

Dark Horse: How the QB position could affect the Saints. The Saints haven't traded down in years, and 11 could be the prime possibility for a team looking to jump Cleveland....Or the Saints could simply pick Drew Brees' predecessor at pick 11. Patrick Mahomes or Mitchell Trubisky would fit the system the best.


1.32 Charles Harris, Edge, Missouri

Thoughts: Athletic pass rusher who could fit right in along the line in passing situations. May need to bulk up to be an every down guy, but would immediately help the defense get to the QB.

2nd Choice: If my mock goes as planned, 32 needs to be a DL or a LB. Putting DL's like Carl Lawson, Jordan Willis, Taco & his teammate Chris Wormsley, and TJ Watt into play. As well as LB's like Zach Cunningham, Tim Williams (olb/edge) & potentially Reuben Foster. Foster to me, if he drops, would be my next choice at 32. If the Saints happen to go front 7 at pick 11, then this could be a CB like Marlon Humphrey

2.42 Chris Wormley, DL Michigan

Thoughts: the 6'5 298 high-character 5th year senior had a productive career at Michigan as a 3 year starter. He wont blow you away, but he is athletic enough to play inside and outside. Will add some much needed beef along the DL to help push the pocket. One downside is he''ll be 24 at the start of the season.

2nd choice: Some of the DL/OLB mentioned after pick 32 could still be in play here. Cunningham & Tim Williams most likely as well as Derek Rivers. Safeties like Marcus Williams & Desmond King could also get a look here.


3.76 Xavier Woods, S Louisiana Tech

Thoughts: Woods turned in a great season, Intercepting 5 balls and making first team all CUSA. He 5'10" 197 safety lacks ideal size, but makes up for it with great instincts & positioning. Recent news that he scored a 39 on the wonderlic shines light on his mental acumen.

2nd choice: Pass rusher Derek Rivers out of Youngstown is a guy that Saints could eye here, but could go in the handful of picks before this. WIsc edge player Vince Beigel could be had in this range, a guy i like better then teammate Watt. TE Jordan Leggett was mocked in my first draft here, he or Jake Butt could help fill the need at TE for the Saints in this spot.

3.103 Taywan Taylor, WR Wester Kentucky

Thoughts: Versatile WR (5'10" 203 4.50) that can play slot or outside, but will make his money in the slot with the Saints. Really good after catch and creating yards for himself. Will replace Cooks as well as fill a need near the LOS in the passing game.

2nd choice: Dede Westbrook or Carlos Henderson could be in play if the Saints look to add a field stretcher at WR. Bucknell OT Julien Davenport was my selection in 1.0, and I could still see the Saints looking to add help on the OL.

6.196 Jaylen Reeves Maybin, LB Tennessee

Thoughts: Undersized at 6'0" 230. Athletic run-and-chase LB who could come in and play special teams immediately and possibly develop into a starting caliber LB.

2nd choice: Josh Boutte, G from LSU could be an intriguing pickup. Projects more as a run grater, but played well vs the pass as well. Also would keep an eye on Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly.


7.229 Gehrig Dieter, WR Alabama

Thoughts: This mainly goes as a special teams pick for a guy that could eventually work his way into the WR corps. Once productive Transfer from Bowling Green has good size 6'2" 207 and is a polished WR working from the slot. Got lost in Bama's shitty passing attack.

2nd choice: as usual look for a pick made with special teams in mind, or a guy with upside to stash on the practice squad .
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:58 pm to
I'd be fine with that.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71803 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:00 pm to
Alie-Cox signed with the Colts.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:02 pm to
Not bad, Xavier Woods is a really good safety
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3252 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:02 pm to
I vomited in mouth at this draft
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:03 pm to
If we go CB in round 1, I want back to back pass rushers. Not another DT.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:05 pm to
If we reach for Conley at 11, I'll scream. This is why I want offense at 11, none of the top defenders are gonna be there at 11 while you might have McCaffery, Williams or Howard available. I'm aware that we need defense but if Garrett, Allen, Thomas, Lattimore, Hooker and Adams are all gone, don't reach for defense. If we take Humphrey, Conley, Barnett or Charlton at 11, I'll be so disappointed.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22487 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:11 pm to
You just wrote 2 pages on players that wont be on our team.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:24 pm to
I like Harris a lot and I would jump on that if he is there at 32. But I don't really like the rest. I wouldn't hate it.

I'd take a bunch of guys from your 2nd choice list though.

McCaffrey @ 11
Keep Harris at 32
Cunningham or King at 42
Derek Rivers at 76
Westbrook at 103
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90542 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:27 pm to
I'll give your props, there is a lot Gareon Conley chatter lately moving up the board.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61333 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:33 pm to
Don't take this personally, because doing the mocks is a lot of fun for fans and I enjoyed reading yours.

Having said that, #11 is too high for Conley and Harris won't make it to #32. Wormley is an okay value at #42, but he's a bad fit for the Saints because he's more of a 4-3 DT and not an edge rusher. Woods and Taylor fit needs, but you have them in the 3rd round and they're both 4th-5th round talents IMO. I don't like the 6th and 7th round guys either.

Sorry
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75884 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

7.229 Gehrig Dieter, WR Alabama

Thoughts: This mainly goes as a special teams pick for a guy that could eventually work his way into the WR corps. Once productive Transfer from Bowling Green has good size 6'2" 207 and is a polished WR working from the slot. Got lost in Bama's shitty passing attack.


No thanks. His hands are fricking terrible. They make bricks look like Charmin Ultra.
Posted by AirFarce1
Member since Jul 2014
250 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:00 pm to
That's a good looking draft, good job.

I'm a big fan of Reeves Maybin, Harris too but you would have to use #11 for him.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64486 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:22 pm to
Nothing crazy there. Love Harris and would like to get Rivers as well.

Last few years? Seen worse. And by the folks that get paid a lot to get it right.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28149 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:22 pm to
Have no idea why you get hated on by the haters. I like reading these types of posts.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38382 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Gehrig Dieter, WR Alabama


savage blocker


quote:

But not long after he finished his workout Dieter was asked why he could make it in the NFL, and he pointed to his experience at Alabama as a reason.

"Special teams and blocking," he said. "I kind of did that here at Bama. It was more special teams and blocking than getting catches. That's OK with me. Whatever helps the team win.

"I am a great team player," he continued. "You can put me anywhere and I will give my best effort and perform."



Also-Maybin, if he can stay healthy, has a place in today's NFL
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37535 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 9:21 pm to
I don't understand hate for this mock.

I'm warming up to Conley at #11. I'm beginning to think if Saints want Conley or Tre White, we're going to have to get them before #32.

By that I mean, CBs will be available at 32/42 and the draft is deep in that next tier IMO, but I like Conley/White in maybe a 2a tier over King/Awuzie/etc in a 2b tier. It comes down to how the Saints have the CBs scouted.

I'd love Harris at #32 if we go CB at #11. Harris is on top of that very deep tier group IMO. Those two picks address two huge needs with two day 1 contributors IMO.

But, because of the hit-miss nature of that draft, I wouldn't stop there. I'd go DE/CB at #42 and/or #76 also with possible step-outs. A guy like TE Evans is intriguing or if there's a surprise major dropper hovering around #42. Jarrod Davis is another guy that intrigues me that could be avail at #42. I think there will be better options than Wormley at 42.

I like Woods and I've mocked Taylor to Saints multiple times messing around. I think with the 6th and 7th pick you could really go any direction so it's really just if you're trying to grab a high potential project or ST contributor/role player.
Posted by WestsideLSUZombie
Member since Feb 2017
162 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 9:43 pm to
The guy likes to refer to himself in the third person. There's a word for people like that.....
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