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Fun Reading: Hit pieces on HRC campaign from NY Mag and Rolling Stone
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:42 am
It's no big deal when places like Breitbart call this stuff out. When the mouthpieces do, though, it's gratifying to read both the article and rending of garments in the comments sections.
Rolling Stone: Yikes! New Behind-the-Scenes Book Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign
New York Magazine: Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary Clinton?
Rolling Stone: Yikes! New Behind-the-Scenes Book Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign
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The real protagonist of this book is a Washington political establishment that has lost the ability to explain itself or its motives to people outside the Beltway.
In fact, it shines through in the book that the voters' need to understand why this or that person is running for office is viewed in Washington as little more than an annoying problem.
In the Clinton run, that problem became such a millstone around the neck of the campaign that staffers began to flirt with the idea of sharing the uninspiring truth with voters. Stumped for months by how to explain why their candidate wanted to be president, Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.
New York Magazine: Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary Clinton?
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I’ve done what I could in this space to avoid the subject of Hillary Clinton. I don’t want to be the perennial turd in the punchbowl. I’d hoped we’d finally seen the last of that name in public life — it’s been a long quarter of a century — and that we could all move on. Alas, no. Her daughter (angels and ministers of grace defend us) seems to be positioning herself for a political career. And Clinton herself duly emerged last week for a fawning, rapturous reception at the Women in the World conference in New York City. It simply amazes me the hold this family still has on the Democratic Party — and on liberals in general.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:46 am to Ag Zwin
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The answer that came back was that Hillary wanted to do the interview with "Brianna." Palmieri took this to mean CNN's Brianna Keilar, and worked to set up the interview, which aired on July 7th of that year.
Unfortunately, Keilar was not particularly gentle in her conduct of the interview. Among other things, she asked Hillary questions like, "Would you vote for someone you didn't trust?" An aide describes Hillary as "staring daggers" at Keilar. Internally, the interview was viewed as a disaster.
It turns out now it was all a mistake. Hillary had not wanted Brianna Keilar as an interviewer, but Bianna Golodryga of Yahoo! News, an excellent interviewer in her own right, but also one who happens to be the spouse of longtime Clinton administration aide Peter Orszag.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:53 am to Ag Zwin
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In the Clinton run, that problem became such a millstone around the neck of the campaign that staffers began to flirt with the idea of sharing the uninspiring truth with voters. Stumped for months by how to explain why their candidate wanted to be president, Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:59 am to Ag Zwin
Where were they when it mattered?
This reminds me of the book that F Chuck Todd wrote, which was somewhat critical of Obama. When was it published? One week AFTER Obama had won the last political campaign he would ever run.
This reminds me of the book that F Chuck Todd wrote, which was somewhat critical of Obama. When was it published? One week AFTER Obama had won the last political campaign he would ever run.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:06 am to Ag Zwin
Th NY Mag article segues into a couple of tangents. The last one has nice little nugget in it that will really get him banned from the club. Questioning a Clinton is starting to actually become fashionable, especially if you were a Bernie-bot. Going against the dogma, though? That's another issue altogether.
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Yet, today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn’t possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn’t be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:12 am to Ag Zwin
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In the general election, she was running against a malevolent buffoon with no political experience, with a deeply divided party behind him, and whose negatives were stratospheric. She outspent him by almost two-to-one. Her convention was far more impressive than his. The demographics favored her. And yet she still managed to lose!
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:15 am to Ag Zwin
April 21st 2017 the New York Times is not fake news.
Subject to change tomorrow.
Subject to change tomorrow.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:01 am to Ag Zwin
Come on, Democrats, shout it out loud:
WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA ! FOR THE USA!
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA ! FOR THE USA!
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:54 am to Ag Zwin
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Shattered is sourced almost entirely to figures inside the Clinton campaign who were and are deeply loyal to Clinton. Yet those sources tell of a campaign that spent nearly two years paralyzed by simple existential questions: Why are we running? What do we stand for? If you're wondering what might be the point of rehashing this now, the responsibility for opposing Donald Trump going forward still rests with the (mostly anonymous) voices described in this book. What Allen and Parnes captured in Shattered was a far more revealing portrait of the Democratic Party intelligentsia than, say, the WikiLeaks dumps. And while the book is profoundly unflattering to Hillary Clinton, the problem it describes really has nothing to do with Secretary Clinton. The real protagonist of this book is a Washington political establishment that has lost the ability to explain itself or its motives to people outside the Beltway. In fact, it shines through in the book that the voters' need to understand why this or that person is running for office is viewed in Washington as little more than an annoying problem.
That is 100% true and the dems as well as the libs here have not learned that lesson. That is why their "moral victory" in the Ks special election was a real world loss, and that is why the dems will lose in the Ga 6th special election & the '18 midterms.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:01 am to Ag Zwin
quote:Chelsea doesn't appear to have any strong convictions behind any issues. Hopefully she decides on a different career.
I’ve done what I could in this space to avoid the subject of Hillary Clinton. I don’t want to be the perennial turd in the punchbowl. I’d hoped we’d finally seen the last of that name in public life — it’s been a long quarter of a century — and that we could all move on. Alas, no. Her daughter (angels and ministers of grace defend us) seems to be positioning herself for a political career. And Clinton herself duly emerged last week for a fawning, rapturous reception at the Women in the World conference in New York City. It simply amazes me the hold this family still has on the Democratic Party — and on liberals in general.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:33 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:You think Matt Taibbi is a Clinton mouthpiece?
When the mouthpieces do, though, it's gratifying to read both the article and rending of garments in the comments sections.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:36 pm to Ag Zwin
If Hillary were a Republican, there would be an HBO movie about the Clinton Campaign similar to Sarah Palin & Game Change.
Hillary ran an awful campaign and it's because she was an awful candidate who's only selling points were that it was her turn and that she was a woman. Nobody liked her and everything about her was forced and phony. Even her outfits are focus group tested. Trump gave a reason for people to vote for him. People turned out to see him. Meanwhile Hillary had to get Beyoncé and other celebrities in order to fill arenas.
You could tell early on in 2015 that she wasn't going to be a juggernaut. I'd even say she was the worst Democratic nominee since Mondale. That's why I believe that several Republicans could've beaten her (That isn't meant to be a slight at Trump). She was really fricking bad.
Hillary ran an awful campaign and it's because she was an awful candidate who's only selling points were that it was her turn and that she was a woman. Nobody liked her and everything about her was forced and phony. Even her outfits are focus group tested. Trump gave a reason for people to vote for him. People turned out to see him. Meanwhile Hillary had to get Beyoncé and other celebrities in order to fill arenas.
You could tell early on in 2015 that she wasn't going to be a juggernaut. I'd even say she was the worst Democratic nominee since Mondale. That's why I believe that several Republicans could've beaten her (That isn't meant to be a slight at Trump). She was really fricking bad.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:23 pm to Ag Zwin
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If the ending to this story were anything other than Donald Trump being elected president, Shattered would be an awesome comedy, like a Kafka novel – a lunatic bureaucracy devouring itself. But since the ending is the opposite of funny, it will likely be consumed as a cautionary tale.
Not very objective there, Rolling Stone.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:10 pm to Ag Zwin
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Because it's her turn
That's a bad pretext for anyone to run on. The last person to do that was George H. W. Bush who was able to pull it off because he rode Reagan's coattails. By 1992 he was done because he could not articulate a vision or theme for his candidacy . Bill Clinton beat him, not because Bill was a great inspirational figure, but because Bill was a competent politician. If he would have run against an enthusiastic Republican candidate in 1992 he would have lost....same in 1996 against Dole ( who might have been the worst Presidential candidate in history) He (Dole) also ran because....it was his turn.
Hillary ran both times and the pretext was always ....it was her turn. She telegraphed it in 2008 and Obama came in and stole the nomination from her. She basically said as much in 2016 and Bernie took her to the end of the primary season and then Trump in the general outflanked her. There was no theme for her. Trump had a theme, Bernie had a theme. Hillary thought it was her due.
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