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re: Former intel officer confirms to CNN that US IC was using Brits to get around US law
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:50 am to League Champs
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:50 am to League Champs
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Former intel officer confirms to CNN that US IC was using Brits to get around US law
bullshite. It's the standard story--other nations began noticing strange things about the Trump campaign in 2015, and the CIA & FBI didn't want to act on this knowledge because they thought the politics looked back. Thus, they didn't start an official investigation until July 2016, and even then, they refused to go public about it.
In no way whatsoever does this back up Napolitano's assertion that the Obama Administration requested surveillance of the Trump campaign from foreign agencies. Every indication is that the higher-ups in the Obama Administration wanted nothing to do with this, and hoped it would go away, whereas the lower officers were the ones who were more concerned (and rightly so). Common sense would tell you that the Obama Administration wasn't the one pushing for or requesting these investigations, because if they did, the final stretch of the election in October 2016 would have played out COMPLETELY differently than it did.
If anything, Barack Obama was complicit in tacitly backing Comey's judgment to hurt Hillary and help Trump, most likely because Obama thought Hillary was going to win anyway, and he didn't care enough about her to help her.
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:54 am to Doc Fenton
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If anything, Barack Obama was complicit in tacitly backing Comey's judgment to hurt Hillary and help Trump,
Good lord, it's true, almost any nonsense is good enough to post here. 
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:05 am to Doc Fenton
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bullshite. It's the standard story--other nations began noticing strange things about the Trump campaign in 2015
Why were they monitoring the Trump campaign in 2015? Paul Manafort and Carter Page were not even on the campaign then. So who exactly were they monitoring?
Don't you find it odd that GCHQ, German intelligence, and the NSA just kept "incidentally" collecting on Trump for well over a year? Do you not find it odd that Susan Rice was over there unmasking personal conversations on Trump's FAMILY that had zero foreign intel value?
Get real, man. This was nothing but a witch hunt. Obama was doing opposition research on Trump by using the fricking intelligence apparatus of the United States. He even went so far as to open an FBI investigation based on a made up dossier written by a guy on Hillary's payroll.
The whole thing stinks. If Trump's people really were colluding with Russia, do you not think they would have found evidence in all those conversations they were "incidentally" collecting for a god damned year? Do you not think that just one of these people said "Ok, let's hack this election, baws" in all that time? What exactly were they listening to them talk about and why has nothing come of it?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:18 am to Doc Fenton
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If anything, Barack Obama was complicit in tacitly backing Comey's judgment to hurt Hillary and help Trump, most likely because Obama thought Hillary was going to win anyway, and he didn't care enough about her to help her.
Wow.
If you believe barack obama, who put all the political credibilty and might he could muster out of his skinny arse behind hillary clinton, gave a nod to James Comey and said "rough her up a bit and let's make this race interesting thus threatening my legacy, the supreme court and the direction of the country for the next four years, then you just may be insane.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:23 am to Doc Fenton
quote:Holy shite, Doc. We used to argue about Iran but I always knew you were a reasonable cat.
bullshite. It's the standard story--other nations began noticing strange things about the Trump campaign in 2015, and the CIA & FBI didn't want to act on this knowledge because they thought the politics looked back. Thus, they didn't start an official investigation until July 2016, and even then, they refused to go public about it.
In no way whatsoever does this back up Napolitano's assertion that the Obama Administration requested surveillance of the Trump campaign from foreign agencies. Every indication is that the higher-ups in the Obama Administration wanted nothing to do with this, and hoped it would go away, whereas the lower officers were the ones who were more concerned (and rightly so). Common sense would tell you that the Obama Administration wasn't the one pushing for or requesting these investigations, because if they did, the final stretch of the election in October 2016 would have played out COMPLETELY differently than it did.
If anything, Barack Obama was complicit in tacitly backing Comey's judgment to hurt Hillary and help Trump, most likely because Obama thought Hillary was going to win anyway, and he didn't care enough about her to help her.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:35 am to Doc Fenton
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Doc Fenton
Who are you?
And how did you manage to hack Doc Fenton's TD account?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:00 pm to Doc Fenton
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indication is that the higher-ups in the Obama Administration wanted nothing to do with this
Hey Sport, how come Obama didn't notify A PRIVATE US citizen that he had knowledge that the citizen was under surveillance by a foreign govt?
Why did they read the transcripts, AND THEN, pass them around, if they wanted nothing to do with it?
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