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re: Holes starting to get punched in Assad/Chemical attack claim

Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:29 pm to
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I'm not an expert on chemical weapons, but I can tell you that if Sarin gas was released over an area, I would not be fricking touching bodies killed by it.
Here are pictures of sarin victims being treated in Japan after the 1995 AUM Shinrikyo attacks.





Several emergency responders are not wearing full masks or gloves. Should we infer this was an al-Qaeda false flag op as well?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:31 pm to
One of the reasons I consider Bellingcat credible is it's one of the few sources where you can find a damning story about Assad right next to a damning story about a US airstrike.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:32 pm to
frick the White Helmets.

They are merely an instrument to spread propaganda.

I would be careful using the actions of this group as "evidence" of anything, including that the desert has a lot of sand in it.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:34 pm to
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One of the reasons I consider Bellingcat credible is it's one of the few sources where you can find a damning story about Assad right next to a damning story about a US airstrike.


That's a good reason to find them more credible. hard to find these days. of course the anti war crowd went extinct after vietnam, so maybe that's why.

Forced to pick a side, I choose Asaad every time. If he loses, I fear it will be worse than it is now. at least half the deaths have been Syrian soldiers, that won't be true if he is ousted.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:36 pm to
I don't necessarily want him toppled. that's for Syrians to decide. I want America OUT.
Posted by Duane Dibbley
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:00 pm to
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Sarin, or GB (G-series, 'B'), is a colorless, odorless liquid,[5] used as a chemical weapon owing to its extreme potency as a nerve agent.

Sarin has a high volatility (ease with which a liquid can turn into a gas) relative to similar nerve agents, therefore inhalation can be very dangerous and even vapor concentrations may immediately penetrate the skin. A person’s clothing can release sarin for about 30 minutes after it has come in contact with sarin gas, which can lead to exposure of other people.[28]

Even at very low concentrations, sarin can be fatal. Death may follow in 1 to 10 minutes after direct inhalation of a lethal dose unless antidotes, typically atropine and pralidoxime, are quickly administered.

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Mariam, 14, a resident of Khan Sheikhoun, where the attack took place, had not yet reached the exam hall when she saw an aircraft drop a bomb on a one-story building a few dozen yards away. In a telephone interview Tuesday night, she described an explosion like a yellow mushroom cloud that stung her eyes. “It was like a winter fog,”she said.

Sheltering in her home nearby, she saw several residents arrive by car to help the wounded. “When they got out, they inhaled the gas and died,” Mariam said.

Is she an X-men type mutant?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:36 pm to
Another link with lots of research and background on the situation...very long read if you listen to the Jonn Kerry audio and watch videos:

DANGER – Deep State is Trying to Manipulate Donald Trump on Syria.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:39 pm to
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theconservativetreehouse.com


Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:41 pm to
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ISIS is the CIA
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:51 pm to
Of course it includes that stupid fricking McCain picture. Of course.
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:16 pm to
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quote:
theconservativetreehouse.com




That's an automatic "disregard this link" if i've ever seen one.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:27 pm to
Y'all dis that link but they source the MSM in their analysis.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:35 pm to
It seems they've been caught trying to do this before, but eventually they may organize it enough to be believable.

https://archive.is/YNgd5

LINK
Seymour Hersh Says Hillary Approved Sending Libya’s Sarin to Syrian Rebels
This was, in fact, the Syrian part of the State Department’s Libyan operation, Obama’s operation to set up an excuse for the US doing in Syria what they had already done in Libya.
https://archive.fo/zZcHV
Therefore, it becomes evident that the area targeted was definitely a terrorist location, where it is known that the White Helmets share operation rooms with terrorist forces like Al-Qaeda as seen after the liberation of eastern Aleppo. Civilians and fighting forces, including Kurdish militias, have all claimed that militant groups that operate in Idlib, Hama and Aleppo countrysides, have used chemical weapons in the past. Therefore, before the war cries begin and the denouncement of the government from high officials in power positions begin, time must be given so that all evidence can emerge. However, this is an important factor that has never existed in the Syrian War, and the terrorist forces continue to hope that Western-intervention against the government will occur, at the cost of the lives of innocent civilians.

>Turkey has proposed staging false flag chemical weapons attacks in Syria. This possibility is even more likely considering the closeness in proximity of Idlib province to Turkey.
>Furthermore, factions in Turkey have not only been providing conventional weapons and small arms to the Syrian rebels, but they have also provided them chemical weapons precursors.
>Rebels captured with Sarin at Turkish border:

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/explosives-seized-at-syria-border.aspx?pageID=238&nid=48064

>And again rebels captured with Sarin:

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/un-adds-al-nusra-to-sanctions-blacklist.aspx?pageID=238&nid=47985

>Because the Turkish government was planning on staging a false flag attack to justify intervention in Syria:

https://www.dailydot.com/politics/turkey-youtube-ban/

>Turkish Whistleblowers Corroborate Story On False Flag Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/23/hersh-vindicated-turkish-whistleblowers-corroborate-story-on-false-flag-sarin-attack-in-syria/

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 12:21 am to
This is why people shouldn't jump to conclusions. There are several players with motive to act.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 2:08 am to
Not going to read through 5 pages of bs, but your source is a pro-regime outlet
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 2:43 am to
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Ragtag force backed by the CIA who have been caught using chemical weapons previously and trying to blame assad for it.
Your OP seems to be claiming that there was no sarin gas attack, but this post claims it was sarin launched by the CIA. Can you pick one conspiracy theory and run with that?
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 4:16 am to
They're trying to put more stink on Assad. Nothing but another domino in the attempt to overthrow another needed dictator so they can start to influence Syrian resources. Just like Libya, Egypt, Iraq etc. Assad is needed just like Saddam and Gaddafi were needed. Sadly our blind arse population will look at this "fake news" and show flawed outrage. Assad needs to win this war and retake full control. No good can come to Syria if the U.S. backed side wins.
Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 6:57 am to
Threads like this just prove the fact that Russia has gotten unwitting trumpkins to push a fake narrative from fake news sites.

They don't even have to do the work anymore. They have built an army of insecure, paranoid conspiracy theorists to push their agenda that is built on lies.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:52 am to
and western media reporting it was Assad is anti-assad outlets who have been busted lying about Assad doing things he hasn't.

Russia confirms it wasn't assad:
LINK
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:54 am to
Looks like I might have been onto something...

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MicroMagicJingleTM is the latest incarnation of MicroChip, a notorious pro-Trump Twitter ringleader once described by a Republican strategist as the "Trumpbot overlord.” He has been suspended from the service so frequently, he can’t recall the exact number of times. A voluminous tweeter, his specialty is making hashtags trend. Over the next 24 hours, following his own call to arms, MicroChip tweeted or retweeted more than 300 times about Rice, including everything from a photoshopped image of Donald Trump eating her head out of a taco bowl to demands that she die in jail, and almost always accompanied by the tag #SusanRice. Meanwhile, in massive threaded tweets and DM groups, he implored others to do likewise.



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Before? What did he mean by “before"? Before the election, before the campaign, and long since before “Russian interference” was the mantra of every political consultant, British former member of Parliament, and American senator turned Tolstoy enthusiast, MicroChip has been figuring out how to make pro-Trump tags go viral on Twitter. When people talk about Russian Twitter bots, they are, very likely, sometimes talking about his work. They’ve ranged from the innocuously rah-rah (#TrumpTrain), to the wildly xenophobic (#Rapefugees), to the extremely unconfirmed (#cruzsexscandal and #hillarygropedme). What they’ve all had in common is a method, the focus of speculation for nearly a year, and a chief promulgator, MicroChip, about whom little is known.


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As MicroChip found other like-minded accounts, he said, they began to organize themselves into enormous, 50-person direct message groups. Within these groups, members would distribute content from the Drudge Report and Reddit’s r/The_Donald subreddit, then tweet it with a commonly decided hashtag, and retweet one another’s tweets ad infinitum. MicroChip called the DM rooms, simply, “retweet groups,” and by September of last year, there were 15 of them. Some of the groups were chock-full of egg and anime avatars, according to MicroChip, but others were composed of Christian conservatives or hardcore Zionists. Taken together, they were like a strange Twitter mirror image of the Trump coalition.

MicroChip added automation to these dedicated DM groups, which he insisted are populated entirely by real people with real accounts. He started using AddMeFast, a kind of social media currency exchange, in which people can retweet or like other tweets in exchange for points that they can then can spend to list their own content (such as pro-Trump hashtagged tweets) to be promoted. You can also buy these points, and an investment of several hundred dollars, according to MicroChip, can yield thousands or even tens of thousands of retweets.

A third component of MicroChip’s blended army of DM groups and crowdsourced social media signal boosters were simple Google script bots. These bots, which MicroChip said “you don’t have to do any programming at all to run,” can be programmed to find and like or retweet tweets featuring certain terms or hashtags.

At its height, MicroChip said, the network he helped create could reliably generate 35,000 retweets a day.


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MicroChip is well aware that many of the tags and stories he promotes haven’t been proven or aren’t true. He’s thrown his network behind #Pizzagate and #SpiritCooking. And days before the election, he posted a tweet to r/The_Donald about an alleged plot by then-president Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to have Trump assassinated in Reno.

“This ignorant shite needs to be stopped,” replied one user.

“I can make whatever claims I want to make,” MicroChip shot back. “That’s how this game works.”


LINK

Now I don't feel so crazy for singling out Ben yesterday.


This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 8:10 am
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