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WTF is wrong with our legal system?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:50 pm
Some quick round ups from recent appellate decisions...
A lot of
here...
Washington Post
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High Point, N.C. officer allows police doggie to bite unresisting homeless man twice after realizing the man is not the robbery suspect he’s pursuing. Fourth Circuit (over a dissent): Qualified immunity.
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During prolonged interrogation, Milwaukee detectives falsely tell intellectually disabled suspect that he failed a polygraph and that eyewitnesses identified him as the murderer. He proclaims his innocence more than 140 times, but eventually confesses and spends over a year in jail before the confession is suppressed and the charges are dropped. Can he sue the detectives for coercing the confession? He cannot, says the Seventh Circuit.
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Officers at Stearns County, Minn. jail listen to pre-trial detainee shriek, bang his head against the door of his cell for eight hours. Deliberate indifference to his medical needs? Could be, says the Eighth Circuit. But officers who held him down and tasered him are immune from the excessive-force claim arising from his death.
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Oklahoma prosecutor issues fake subpoenas, bogus arrest warrants in attempt to force three underage witnesses to testify against murder suspect — and does not inform their parents or get them counsel. (One, a 12 year old, testifies but later recants.) The suspect spends 16 years in prison, much of it on death row, before being freed. Oklahoma Supreme Court: No need to disbar the prosecutor.
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Inmate spreads feces about his cell. While he is restrained and compliant, an officer allegedly punches him in the gut. The officer is fired. North Carolina court (over a dissent): Reinstate him.
A lot of
here... Washington Post
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:55 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Inmate spreads feces about his cell.
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officer allegedly punches him in the gut
Deserved it tbh
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:55 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:I thought this was highly illegal
Oklahoma prosecutor issues fake subpoenas, bogus arrest warrants in attempt to force three underage witnesses to testify against murder suspect — and does not inform their parents or get them counsel.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
Those people should not have played stupid games if they didn't want to win stupid prizes.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Washington Post
You need to be banned for quoting this garbage.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Inmate spreads feces about his cell. While he is restrained and compliant, an officer allegedly punches him in the gut.
Have zero problems with this whatsoever.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
Without reading beyond "Some quick round ups from recent appellate decisions" I can answer to some degree,
It is a complicated system that is suppose to be fair, it would only be fair if everyone was able to pay for the same quality lawyers.
There are people who stay in jail for longer than they should because although their bond is set low, they still can't afford it. Then there are people who should have to stay in jail longer than they do, get out ASAP because, even though the bond is set extremely high, they have the means to get out.
There are people in jail, who will stay there until their court date. In some cases, their sentence is shorter than the time they already served... Which means, more tax dollars than should have been spent, is spent on these people.
One example of what's wrong with the legal system is the animal who broke into the house of a mother and daughter (was it in spanish town?), killed the mother and injured the daughter. He should have been in jail, but Judy White happened.
To be continued...
It is a complicated system that is suppose to be fair, it would only be fair if everyone was able to pay for the same quality lawyers.
There are people who stay in jail for longer than they should because although their bond is set low, they still can't afford it. Then there are people who should have to stay in jail longer than they do, get out ASAP because, even though the bond is set extremely high, they have the means to get out.
There are people in jail, who will stay there until their court date. In some cases, their sentence is shorter than the time they already served... Which means, more tax dollars than should have been spent, is spent on these people.
One example of what's wrong with the legal system is the animal who broke into the house of a mother and daughter (was it in spanish town?), killed the mother and injured the daughter. He should have been in jail, but Judy White happened.
To be continued...
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
Is this where we say "Those who comply survive"?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:14 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
WTF is wrong with our legal system?
It's corrupt & fricked up
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:35 pm to NYNolaguy1
so what? we already knew lawyers and judges suck, racism is fine when its blacks who are the racists, and O J Simpson and Casey Anthony got away with murder.
life isn't fair and everyone is out to get you if you don't watch your back and never trust anyone, not even family and especially not your friends
life isn't fair and everyone is out to get you if you don't watch your back and never trust anyone, not even family and especially not your friends
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:44 pm to NYNolaguy1
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During prolonged interrogation, Milwaukee detectives falsely tell intellectually disabled suspect that he failed a polygraph and that eyewitnesses identified him as the murderer
This is mega Fk'd up if the person in question is Downs or MR.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
intellectually disabled suspect
quote:that seems odd
spends over a year in jail
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:That'll teach him to not be the suspect in question. That's how you take a bite out of crime. The officer should be fired, sued and fined.
High Point, N.C. officer allows police doggie to bite unresisting homeless man twice after realizing the man is not the robbery suspect he’s pursuing. Fourth Circuit (over a dissent): Qualified immunity.
quote:This is just......Why can't these people be held accountable for their actions. This stuff is going to have to change on the local level. That is down right criminal.
During prolonged interrogation, Milwaukee detectives falsely tell intellectually disabled suspect that he failed a polygraph and that eyewitnesses identified him as the murderer. He proclaims his innocence more than 140 times, but eventually confesses and spends over a year in jail before the confession is suppressed and the charges are dropped. Can he sue the detectives for coercing the confession? He cannot, says the Seventh Circuit.
quote:Smh. We give these people too much power in having no recourse.
Officers at Stearns County, Minn. jail listen to pre-trial detainee shriek, bang his head against the door of his cell for eight hours. Deliberate indifference to his medical needs? Could be, says the Eighth Circuit. But officers who held him down and tasered him are immune from the excessive-force claim arising from his death.
quote:There is much need to disbar the prosecutor as well as soon his arse and the local government's arse off.
Oklahoma prosecutor issues fake subpoenas, bogus arrest warrants in attempt to force three underage witnesses to testify against murder suspect — and does not inform their parents or get them counsel. (One, a 12 year old, testifies but later recants.) The suspect spends 16 years in prison, much of it on death row, before being freed. Oklahoma Supreme Court: No need to disbar the prosecutor.
quote:That's crappy situation.
Inmate spreads feces about his cell. While he is restrained and compliant, an officer allegedly punches him in the gut. The officer is fired. North Carolina court (over a dissent): Reinstate him.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
EPA agents lead armed raid
Why does the EPA have guns?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
serious answer. Liberals are what is wrong with our legal system. People not willing to just take their lumps that they deserve keep our legal system clogged up. Dumb arse lawsuits and settling out of court for those dumb shite lawsuits are what's wrong with our legal system.
I wish every day that America would just implement caning. Caught stealing? 6 licks from a cane and be done with it. Guess what though? Won't do it again. Caught vandalizing? A few licks and you won't do it again and don't have to bother with jail time.
There should also be a penalty against people who makes false accusations or frivolous lawsuits. If I get sued for some stupid bullshite that I didn't do, I still have to hire a lawyer to go fight it and am out a chunk of cash. I got pulled into a lawsuit about a construction job years back and I had never even been on the job and nothing to do with the job, they just found my name and thought I had. I had to pay a lawyer to go down and tell them I had nothing to do with the job. If shite like that was reimbursed by the plaintiffs then it would get rid of a lot of ambulance chasers willing to start writing letters to cash grab.
I wish every day that America would just implement caning. Caught stealing? 6 licks from a cane and be done with it. Guess what though? Won't do it again. Caught vandalizing? A few licks and you won't do it again and don't have to bother with jail time.
There should also be a penalty against people who makes false accusations or frivolous lawsuits. If I get sued for some stupid bullshite that I didn't do, I still have to hire a lawyer to go fight it and am out a chunk of cash. I got pulled into a lawsuit about a construction job years back and I had never even been on the job and nothing to do with the job, they just found my name and thought I had. I had to pay a lawyer to go down and tell them I had nothing to do with the job. If shite like that was reimbursed by the plaintiffs then it would get rid of a lot of ambulance chasers willing to start writing letters to cash grab.
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