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PFT: Malcolm Butler trade never seriously discussed between Pats/Saints

Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113328 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:14 pm
LINK

Doesnt rule it out in the future, but it sounds like the Pats won't discuss that trade possibility until he signs the tender
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4466 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:15 pm to
What are the saints gonna trade for him? Lololol this organization is shite!! Feel bad for fans
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29114 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Lololol this organization is shite!! Feel bad for fans


I feel bad for people who type out "Lololol"

Why don't you go post somewhere else since you aren't a Saints' fan?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:19 pm to
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What are the saints gonna trade for him? Lololol this organization is shite!! Feel bad for fans


Read the actual link
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:23 pm to
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the Pats won't discuss that trade possibility until he signs the tender


well to be accurate he isn't part of the team until he signs and according to league rules they aren't supposed to be able to "officially" negotiate for him until he does.

personally I don't think they ever had any plans other then resigning both butler and hightower and are just playing hard ball so the players lower expectations of salary deals then are going to get.

if butler ever would be "shopped" I think the saints could do it at a great cost like 1st round pick plus another pick or player
Posted by breauxmosexual
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2016
2526 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:28 pm to
Not according to my source
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113328 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:31 pm to
I disagree with PFT at the end where it says it's very likely Butler won't get it from the Pats


The Pats have 36 million in cap space, I don't see why everyone assumes they won't pay Gilmore and Butler
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:35 pm to
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FlappingPierre


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Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:38 pm to
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The Pats have 36 million in cap space, I don't see why everyone assumes they won't pay Gilmore and Butler



The Pats don't pay. What they do is they unload before a player is due a big contract.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113328 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:56 pm to
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The Pats don't pay


That myth has been busted many of times
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:56 pm to
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The Pats don't pay. What they do is they unload before a player is due a big contract.


yep, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

history shows they let players wanting big contracts go by trading them instead

the only one exception is brady and to be honest his contract is on the "very" cheap side for who he is and what he has done

the patriots are the penny pinching grandma with a full bank account but till eating tuna fish all week to save 3 cents when it comes to paying players at contract time
This post was edited on 3/12/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113328 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 3:07 pm to
Devin McCourty, Gronk, Hernandez, Gilmore, adalious Thomas, Logan mankins, Moss in 08, Revis, are just off the top of my head examples of free agents and home grown talents that have gotten top of the market deals from the pats the past decade


Also the Pats have never had this much cap flexibility. That plays a huge part
This post was edited on 3/12/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:34 pm to
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The Pats don't pay. What they do is they unload before a player is due a big contract


They don't mind spending. What they do mind is spending for a player knowing their best years are behind them.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30671 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:59 pm to
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Devin McCourty, Gronk, Hernandez, Gilmore, adalious Thomas, Logan mankins, Moss in 08, Revis, are just off the top of my head examples of free agents and home grown talents that have gotten top of the market deals from the pats the past decade



and a lot of those contracts were value:production.

Gronk was a top 2 TE and arguably a top 5 offensive threat that costed 9mil a year. Hernandez had top 5-10 TE potential and produced like a solid #2 WR while getting paid similarly. Other comparable offensive weapons were getting paid a lot more.

Mankins was top 3 lineman getting paid big guard money, then the second his production dipped and the value wasn't there, he was flipped

you guys pay for production and value, but when its not there BB lets them go or flips them. Gronk as a dominating WR gets paid 15mil, but Gronk as a top 2 TE only gets paid 10mil. that's the kind of value he keeps.

Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins combine for 29.1mil annually, that is their market as they are both top 5 at their position, but there is no value in that at all.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113328 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:25 pm to
Clearly he sees value in the corner position given the large contract given to Revis/Gilmore. And he's loved Butler ever since he showed up to minicamp as an UDFA.
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