re: So I finally gave up on the front yard...Having it ripped up and replaced...

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TU Rob

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I'm in the same boat. Really old yard when I moved in 10 summers ago. I kept it looking good for about 5 years, but it didn't need much other than cutting/edging and occasionally watering. We have a huge oak out front, and all the grass under it has died. I trimmed back some low branches two years ago to give it some light, but it never grew back in even with me seeding. We're at the point now where I either need to drop the tree and sod, or take up the brick border under it and do one that goes out farther and just plant shrubs in there instead of grass. Our area is hilly as well so we get runoff. Down in the yard it looks great, but all the rain doesn't soak in up top and that's where I have trouble getting it to grow.

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Was literally talking to my Dad yesterday and said people don't realize that the Oak Trees are taking the lime out of the soil as a nutrient and that if you lay some yard lime out that it will spur new growth of the grass easily under Oak Trees like that.

May be worth a shot...