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re: Why is Obamacare still a law?

Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by abitabrewed4LSU
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2009
1078 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:23 pm to
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I want that shite repealed ASAP!


No one cares what you want.
Posted by bubba68
here, there, everywhere
Member since Oct 2014
435 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:24 pm to
Because folks like AARP, the big pharmaceutical companies, and former politicians turned lobbyist are making tons of money off the Affordable Care Act.



This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:29 pm to


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Lowest uninsured rate in history speaks to that.


Yes. Thanks to Medicaid.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:34 pm to
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Still a lower cost than being uninsured and having to pay for a major procedure, wiping out everything you have.


A. Catastrophic coverage was available prior to ACA.
B. Have you ever seen the medical bills from cancer patients with excellent insurance? Still quite high.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:34 pm to
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It's not repealed bc gop donors and lobbyists make billions from it.


Yeah, this is the giant secret that everyone knows about.

Your GOP representative tell you they will repeal Obamacare on the campaign trail and in the DC Beltway they tell Tom Donahue and the US Chamber of Commerce and their big corporate memers, "don't worry, we won't repeal Obamacare".

It's truely disgusting.

Hopefully Trump starts to call out lame arse Ryan and McConnell.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:34 pm to
D/P
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:39 pm to
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It's truely disgusting.


yep
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:09 am to
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A. Catastrophic coverage was available prior to ACA.


Not if you have a pre-existing condition. And often it capped the coverage at a lifetime maximum - not very useful for those with chronic conditions or very serious oncology dx.

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B. Have you ever seen the medical bills from cancer patients with excellent insurance? Still quite high.


And yet, somehow lower than if they tried to get the same coverage without insurance. It's funny how that works.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72725 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:20 am to
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Not if you have a pre-existing condition.


Seems the solution would be to have insurance prior to that event.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89619 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:25 am to
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Notice they voted over and over to repeal it when they knew Obama would veto? Notice that the GOP House never cut funds to Obamacare?


It's a very dangerous game they're playing. The electorate is angry enough to have voted for Donald Trump.

Let that sink in.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:30 am to
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Well, I"m on it currently, so I'd like for them to have a viable solution before they just revoke it, you dumb frick.


If it ended tomorrow, it wouldn't mean your plan would end...
There just wouldn't be a gun pointed at your head to buy it.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:31 am to
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Seems the solution would be to have insurance prior to that event.


The individual states should own that responsibility...I don't care how they do it.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:34 am to
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Lowest uninsured rate in history speaks to that.


This is the most stupid thing to come out of Obamacare...

It's like saying Nazis had the most Jews covered for end of life plans...
When it's done at gunpoint, it isn't an accomplishment
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:36 am to
Hey we got some great coverage rates, I mean sure it is fricking the middle class but look at them rates.

Especially given that most of that coverage is shite tier insurance that isn't worth much of anything.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:41 am to
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Seems the solution would be to have insurance prior to that event.


And if you're born with it? Insurance before birth, or tough luck trying to make it in America?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:48 am to
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This is the most stupid thing to come out of Obamacare...

It's like saying Nazis had the most Jews covered for end of life plans...
When it's done at gunpoint, it isn't an accomplishment



It's not stupid, but it doesn't tell the whole story. It is true that the uninsured rate has dropped significantly, mostly due to Medicaid expansion. But it's also true that many that got coverage are afraid to use it because their deductible is so high.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28843 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:54 am to
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It's not stupid, but it doesn't tell the whole story. It is true that the uninsured rate has dropped significantly, mostly due to Medicaid expansion


Compare Medicaid enrollment in 2008 to 2016. 20 million more people are enrolled in Medicaid. Where have I seen that 20 million figure before?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72725 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:57 am to
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The individual states should own that responsibility...I don't care how they do it.



I'd put it at a much lower level. The individual person should own that responsibility.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72725 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:00 am to
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And if you're born with it?


Congenital conditions are separate from not carrying insurance as an adult, unless it doesn't manifest until adulthood. In that case, I'd say that person should've been an adult and carried health insurance, or they can be an adult and deal with the consequences of their actions.

I'd probably support legislation that prevented insurance providers from denying children being added to their parents' existing plan. Not difficult stuff here.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:01 pm to
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If he didn't have a job, he'd be on Medicaid and the expansion wouldn't matter. The ACA helps the WORKING poor.

Idiot




And the working Middle Class (who do you think buys the gold plans-- its the self-employed people making 50-100k)
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