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Flynn resignation shines light on the deep state and attacks on Trump Admin

Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:33 am
This is a good bloomberg column about what really happened and the leaks that has been coming out of DC. Mind you, the author of this piece is by no means a Trump fan and actually says there still are questions that need to be answered about Team Trump and russia but the larger issue here is the entrenched deep state and bureaucracy that's doing everything they can do to undermine a legitimate elected government.

This is a fair point to follow.....

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There is another component to this story as well -- as Trump himself just tweeted. It's very rare that reporters are ever told about government-monitored communications of U.S. citizens, let alone senior U.S. officials. The last story like this to hit Washington was in 2009 when Jeff Stein, then of CQ, reported on intercepted phone calls between a senior Aipac lobbyist and Jane Harman, who at the time was a Democratic member of Congress.

Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.


There's a pattern here....

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Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern. "There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said. "From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

Nunes said he was going to bring this up with the FBI, and ask the agency to investigate the leak and find out whether Flynn himself is a target of a law enforcement investigation. The Washington Post reported last month that Flynn was not the target of an FBI probe.



Possible Motives for targeting Flynn....

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Flynn was a fat target for the national security state. He has cultivated a reputation as a reformer and a fierce critic of the intelligence community leaders he once served with when he was the director the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama. Flynn was working to reform the intelligence-industrial complex, something that threatened the bureaucratic prerogatives of his rivals.

He was also a fat target for Democrats. Remember Flynn's breakout national moment last summer was when he joined the crowd at the Republican National Convention from the dais calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed.


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With all that said, we need to see the full transcript of the conversation he had with the Russian ambassador as leakers and possibly media are cherry picking it.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:33 am to
This wasn't Flynn's first run-in with the spooks. Clapper had his hands all over Flynn's dismissal from the Obama administration.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:34 am to
It's clear he was set up by Obama administration black hats like Clapper and Yates
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:36 am to
So you're a fan of Eli Lake articles now? Hahaha...awesome!

P.S. -- I like Eli, but I disagree with him here. I'm glad Flynn is gone.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119028 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:36 am to
There are a lot of bad guys in the IC against Trump and against American interest. And there is not a person that reflects that anti-Americanism more than John McCain.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:36 am to
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the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.



You mean like the FBI breaking protocol to alter the outcome of a Presidential election?

Yeah, that would seem improper.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37573 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:36 am to
Is it true his contact was in December. Then once Trump found out about his lie he fired him?

Why the frick is this even news?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:37 am to
The Swamp is full of treacherous creatures. And that drain is way out in the middle of it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:39 am to
If it was a pure smear job from the Obama administration and intelligence community, why wouldn't Trump do what he always does, and fight back?

Trump is often loyal to a fault, and relishes a challenge from the establishment, so not fighting back wouldn't make sense, unless there was good reason not to.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32014 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:40 am to
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Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.




As Trump said earlier-Thats what Nazi Germany used to do.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99138 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:42 am to
My money is on Yates
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:51 am to
Getting rid of the Deep State Pedo-Satanists was never going to be easy...
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147308 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:52 am to
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Flynn resignation shines light on the deep state and attacks on Trump Admin

The larger issue here is the entrenched deep state and bureaucracy that's doing everything they can do to undermine a legitimate elected government.

Paging NavyTiger, come in NavyTiger, do you read me?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:55 am to
This is a worrying fact, but we also can't ignore the importance of WikiLeaks in making leaks the "norm." See also Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning.

Part of it is national identity being subsumed beneath political identity.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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