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re: My question to liberals on this voter registration issue
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:56 am to MullenBoys
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:56 am to MullenBoys
I don't care if you have to show an id to vote...it makes absolutely no difference to me. I even applaud the effort to facilitate the mathematically challenged among us who sincerely believe, because their handlers have told them it was so, that it is remotely possible that enough people are voting illegally in ways that presenting a picture id at the polls would prevent. We should do everything we can to make life easier on the handicapped even if their handicap is one of choice such as believing there are a mathematically significant number of people voting illegally in ways that requiring an id would slow or stop.
What is truly amazing is the number of those people handicapped in the way described above who also can't understand why it is slightly more difficult to do EVERYTHING in life if you are poor or work in a job where you aren't free to run little errands during the work day like most people in low to moderate income jobs are. These same handicapped people also can't understand why it is just a little more difficult to get to a government office building that is 15 miles one way from your home when you don't own a car and must walk, and take public transportation.
I am not suggesting that these difficulties should eliminate the need to present an id when registering and when voting. I am only suggesting that it is amazing that handicapped people can sincerely believe that people are voting in person in large numbers illegally BUT it is as easy for a person working 16 hours a day to take care of mundane tasks like getting a haircut as it is for someone on salary who can come and go from their job more or less as they see fit. This is why I think we should pass voter ID laws because it will ease the fears of the snowflake who believes (they certainly aren't thinking) that voter ID laws are about the sanctity of the ballot box and not about making it a little more likely that poor people won't go to the trouble of voting.
What is truly amazing is the number of those people handicapped in the way described above who also can't understand why it is slightly more difficult to do EVERYTHING in life if you are poor or work in a job where you aren't free to run little errands during the work day like most people in low to moderate income jobs are. These same handicapped people also can't understand why it is just a little more difficult to get to a government office building that is 15 miles one way from your home when you don't own a car and must walk, and take public transportation.
I am not suggesting that these difficulties should eliminate the need to present an id when registering and when voting. I am only suggesting that it is amazing that handicapped people can sincerely believe that people are voting in person in large numbers illegally BUT it is as easy for a person working 16 hours a day to take care of mundane tasks like getting a haircut as it is for someone on salary who can come and go from their job more or less as they see fit. This is why I think we should pass voter ID laws because it will ease the fears of the snowflake who believes (they certainly aren't thinking) that voter ID laws are about the sanctity of the ballot box and not about making it a little more likely that poor people won't go to the trouble of voting.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:30 am to germandawg
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We should do everything we can to make life easier on the handicapped
I actually agreed with you here, but...
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even if their handicap is one of choice
Is utter garbage. I am fat (5'9" 235), should I ever balloon to the point I can't fit on a ride at Six Flags, I won't demand they make the seats larger to allow my fat arse to still have fun like everyone else. Instead, I'd evaluate the choices I've made up to that point and think, "Yeah, this one is on me."
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:41 am to germandawg
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I am only suggesting that it is amazing that handicapped people can sincerely believe that people are voting in person in large numbers illegally BUT it is as easy for a person working 16 hours a day to take care of mundane tasks like getting a haircut as it is for someone on salary who can come and go from their job more or less as they see
So how did this hypothetical worker of long hours get a job with no picture ID?
The answer, of course, is that they have one and this argument is aimed solely at facilitating organized voter fraud.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:42 am to germandawg
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What is truly amazing is the number of those people handicapped in the way described above who also can't understand why it is slightly more difficult to do EVERYTHING in life if you are poor or work in a job where you aren't free to run little errands during the work day like most people in low to moderate income jobs are.
So people that work low income jobs work every single day? This is a simplistic and utterly bullshite excuse and you know it.
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These same handicapped people also can't understand why it is just a little more difficult to get to a government office building that is 15 miles one way from your home when you don't own a car and must walk, and take public transportation.
Again, a person, throughout his/her lifetime, is unable to conquer this feat? These aren't snails, these are people. Nothing you've mentioned so far contains 1 oz. of common sense. Secondly, the right to vote isn't an involuntary reflex. A very slim modicum of effort is required to obtain an ID. If you don't have one, you either really don't care about voting, or you are an illegal. That is the only options nowadays with today's technology and government assistance available to anything with a pulse.
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. I am only suggesting that it is amazing that handicapped people
Your description of the "barriers" preventing people from getting ID's could only mean these people are severely handicap preventing them from attaining ID's. But please, continue to think it is the rational people that are handicapped.
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y BUT it is as easy for a person working 16 hours a day
You are assuming the poor work 16 hours a day based on what? Feelings? If you want to base it on the BLS, the average work week is 34 hours/week. That's for full time employees. ARe you somehow saying that the poor part time worker is working more hours than the full time employee? Your argument if failing around your own words.
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This is why I think we should pass voter ID laws because it will ease the fears of the snowflake who believes (they certainly aren't thinking) that voter ID laws are about the sanctity of the ballot box and not about making it a little more likely that poor people won't go to the trouble of voting.
Voter ID laws are common sense. You know it, i know it, we all know it. You can come on here and pretend like requiring an ID vs. using the honor system is some big travesty and inconvenience to the poor but you have literally zero proof or evidence just based on your idiotic logic that somehow the poorest of society also work 16 hours/day, 365 days/year. Your argument is filled with stupidity. It's evident by the scenario you make up to support it, not by any facts or figures.
You are a poor, poor, poor debater.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:48 am to germandawg
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I don't care if you have to show an id to vote...it makes absolutely no difference to me.
I'll bet you would not be so sanguine about purging the registration rolls and required proof of citizenship and residence when registering.
The significant problem with illegal 'voting' comes from the corruption in the precincts controlled by the DEM machine where hundreds, if not thousands, of names on the rolls do not represent a real live person. This is why these precincts are always the last to report. The operatives go in and 'cast a vote' for each of those names who did not show up. This is the ONLY way you can get close to - or in some times over - 100% "voter turnout" in a crime infested inner city precinct.
So to ensure free and fair elections we need to purge the registration rolls - require everyone to show up in person with proof of citizenship/residence, and issue them a FREE photo ID (perhaps a fingerprint) to be used for voting purposes.
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