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re: Enjoy this board while you can
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:48 am to SeaOfRed
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:48 am to SeaOfRed
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Free speech (whether typed or spoken) is slowly eroding away.
I think you need a refresher on what "free speech" means. Free speech means you can say what you want without legal consequences outside of stuff like screaming fire in a crowded room, hate speech, etc. Free speech doesn't guarantee anyone access to an online message board that someone has to spend a significant amount of money for you to have access too.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:52 am to Haughton99
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I think you need a refresher on what "free speech" means. Free speech means you can say what you want without legal consequences outside of stuff like screaming fire in a crowded room, hate speech, etc
So maybe two people need a refresher on free speech...
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:03 am to Haughton99
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hate speech, etc.
Please define 'hate speech' - if it is so onerous as to deny 'freedom of speech' then it should be very simple to define.
TIA.
also - could you expound on "etc?
TIA.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:04 am to Haughton99
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I think you need a refresher on what "free speech" means.
Given the rest of your post, I believe you need a primer.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:24 am to Haughton99
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hate speech
I love people that say hate speech. What is exactly hate speech? Give me the exact words and context they are that makes them "hate speech" and then we can talk. Until then hate speech is just some arbitrary bullshite made up by some PC junkie to shut down the opposition.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:47 am to Haughton99
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hate speech
That's very subjective, no? I'd have to counter hate speech is covered free speech.
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Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the Supreme Court, held that the prohibition against hate speech was unconstitutional as it contravened the First Amendment. ... Thus, the Supreme Court embraced the idea that speech in general is permissible unless it will lead to imminent violence.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:00 pm to Haughton99
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Free speech means you can say what you want without legal consequences outside of stuff like screaming fire in a crowded room, hate speech, et
"Hate speech" is not illegal -- that is a lie espoused by the left. I can call you a dirty wetback and that is not illegal. I can say I'm glad Hitler killed the Jews, and that's legal. On the other side of the aisle, I can say death to America and "Allah Akbar" and that in itself is not illegal.
What becomes illegal are explicit threats to persons or property.
But, you're right about free speech. Many people seem to misunderstand what the 1st amendment does and what it does not do. The 1st amendment gives you immunity from persecution or censorship from the GOVERNMENT for speaking your mind. It does not guarantee you any freedom from censorship from private entities like Internet websites and the like.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 6:01 pm
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