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re: The evangelical right is also melting

Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:42 pm to
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You do know Piper follows Calvinist teaching heavily?


He endorses bastardized Calvinism. Calvin believed in hardline predestination, the immaculate conception and perpetual virginity of Mary, rejected sola scriptura, etc.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:49 pm to
I think that's picking and choosing. There's a lot more to it than that but maybe I should have said Piper is one of the more strict scritpuralist today.

Now every point that Calvin did? No of course not because some of it is wrong any way you swing it.

but the more hardline predestination and sovereignty of God that was rejected middle of 20th century has been picked up by Piper and Chandler. Neither are idiots.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Sapere
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:58 am to
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Calvin believed in hardline predestination


As does Piper.

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the immaculate conception and perpetual virginity of Mary


Where in his writings does Calvin specifically endorse these views?

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rejected sola scriptura


This might be too hasty of an assertion.

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Now daily oracles are not sent from heaven, for it pleased the Lord to hallow his truth to everlasting remembrance in the Scriptures alone.


When taken to its logical conclusion this statement is a rejection of sacred tradition as being infallible. It is therefore a rejection of sacred tradition as being an infallible authority.

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But such wranglers are neatly refuted by just one word of the apostle. He testifies that the church is "built upon the foundation of the prophets and the apostles". If the teaching of the prophets and apostles is the foundation, this must have had authority before the church began to exist. Groundless, too, is their subtle objection that, although the church took its beginning here, the writings to be attributed to the prophets and the apostles nevertheless remain in doubt until decided by the church. For if the Christian church was from the beginning founded upon the writings of the prophets and the preaching of the apostles, wherever this doctrine is found, the acceptance of it-without which the church itself would never have existed-must certainly have preceded the church. It is utterly vain then, to pretend that the power of judging Scripture so lies with church that its certainty depends upon churchly assent.


Here we have a quote that places Scripture as the authority over and above the church.

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