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NYT shits all over Buzzfeed & Pissgate media

Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99190 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:55 am
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Some highlights (emphasis added):

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But CNN declined to include the specific allegations contained in the dossier — such as collusion between Mr. Trump’s team and Russian operatives — saying that its journalists could not independently verify them


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BuzzFeed’s decision, besides its immediate political ramifications for a president-elect who is to be inaugurated in 10 days, was sure to accelerate a roiling debate about the role and credibility of the traditional media in today’s frenetic, polarized information age.

Of particular interest was the use of unsubstantiated information from anonymous sources, a practice that fueled some of the so-called fake news — false rumors passed off as legitimate journalism — that proliferated during the presidential election.

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In a brief interview in the Times newsroom on Tuesday evening, Dean Baquet, the executive editor of The Times, said the paper would not publish the document because the allegations were “totally unsubstantiated.”


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Immediately after BuzzFeed’s publication, some reporters volunteered that they, too, had received copies of the report. “Raise your hand if you too were approached with this story,” Julia Ioffe, a journalist who has written extensively on Russia, wrote on Twitter, adding that she had not reported on the information in the document “because it was impossible to verify.”

Writers at the blog Lawfare, which covers national security issues, said they had been in possession of the document “for a couple of weeks” but opted not to publish because the allegations were unproven.

“Yes, they are explosive; they are also entirely unsubstantiated, at least to our knowledge, at this stage,” the site wrote on Tuesday night. “For this reason, even now, we are not going to discuss the specific allegations within the document.”


Interesting times, indeed...

Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:56 am to
Wikileaks = uncredible

Buzzfeed = fact

/CNN logic
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67506 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:56 am to
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Interesting times, indeed

When you consider the NYT as the voice of reason
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167511 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:56 am to
It's so far out there that only a place like Buzzfeed and a joke like CNN would tie themselves to it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140737 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:57 am to
It's good that the NYT is at least trying to keep some of their journalistic integrity in tact.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:57 am to
Is the MSM trying to carve a niche in itself to convince people that some of the MSM is honest?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:58 am to
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CNN


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its journalists



Does not compute.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:00 am to
Hmmmm.. So the NYT, a fake news outlet are claiming other news to be fake. By Trumpkin logic wouldnt that make #pissgate totally legit?
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:01 am to
So now we have a clear picture. Our CIA is on the same level as BuzzFeed. I can just imagine president trump sitting in the oval office, and in bursts the director of the CIA." Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, we just found out a grandma has discovered a way to remove Isis using this one weird trick! "
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:04 am to
Tapper and the gang on CNN just said the reporting of the unverified details was irresponsible. I agree. Reporting that Trump was briefed about a report that the Russians have compromising information on him is absolutely inbounds, however.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23835 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:05 am to
I read this just as the New York Times. It is a report, but more importantly it is only alleged to be a credible report. I don't assume credibility. This one doesn't get a pass on that. Of course it would be good for my tribe if it is true, but it seems suspect.

Not as suspect as pizzagate, but suspect nonetheless.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4464 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:36 am to
CNN has repeated that the info in the buzzfeed docs is completely unverified. Their story isn't that they claim it's true but that Russians claim to have dirt on Trump and that the IC has taken those threats seriously.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40483 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:40 am to
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Pinned Tweet
Peter Thiel ?@Thiel3X 4h4 hours ago

#BuzzFeed, you saw what I did to Gawker. You are next.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56505 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:42 am to
This is a perfect time to re introduce real news reporting. Gain the credibility as THE source. Do so by exposing the why behind all the bullshite reporting. America would flock to it. Could be the saving grace for some of the old newspapers
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111617 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:04 am to
The mainstream isn't even pretending to follow any process. Taibbi noted about the WaPo Rusdia story that shortly followed the election that it was unparalleled how the media was ditching its processes and standards.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23651 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:09 am to
Isn't buzzfeed a shitty click bait site?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25249 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:11 am to
Also, of course that failure John McCain would have his gimp fingerprints all over this.
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