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re: Navy Destroyer fires warning shots at Iraninian vessels

Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:39 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:39 am to
where is the closest carrier?
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:42 pm to
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where is the closest carrier?

Don't think there is one over there right now, for the first time in a long time
Posted by SamGinn Cam
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:50 pm to
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There are currently no U.S. aircraft carriers deployed in the Middle East after the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower returned to Norfolk and the USS George H. W. Bush had its deployment delayed.

Article should have said there were none deployed anywhere in the world; first time in years that has been the case.

Only 4 IIRG small craft, I'm surprised there weren't more as they usually send 5+.

Flares are SOP for <1000yds (0.5nm), which is pretty close when you are on a warship but not that close for the Strait of Hormuz transit. Not sure if this is still the case but in 2012, DoD said warning shots at sea are no longer permitted. You use alternative methods or it's inherent self-defense shoot to kill.

I went through the Strait of Hormuz on an LHD in 2009 and was monitoring chat when two ships in our group went through in 2011. There is a JAG Officer on the bridge of the HVA ship recording bridge to bridge traffic during transit and there are laminated cards provided that state what we can answer with answers, and what we are not going to answer. They ask the same shite every time and act like we are trespassing. They know we are there because they have SAM sites and coastal radar on a few of their islands. SOP is briefed to all involved prior to the transit.

<~200 yds is SOP for firing but they usually never get that close due to a MH60 helo being present with hellfires. I've seen them get as close as 50yds though and the biggest determination whether we consider any type of warning is whether they have weapons uncovered, ammo on deck or if the ammo is actually inserted into the weapon. If there's no ammo, we likely are only going to flare them or use loud acoustic directing machines. If there's ammo on deck, air support will likely keep them ~1000yds. Haven't seen them with ammo actually linked into the weapons to date.

A ship is concerned if they send out a small ship with C802 missile capability or 10+ vessels. DDGs and CGs carry a 5" round that fires like skeet shot that Iran wants no part of.
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