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re: A breakdown of real and fake news
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:08 am to NOLATide
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:08 am to NOLATide
I have never heard of the publications listed in the bottom left corner. What's crazy is that those sites, according to the graph, are of less journalistic quality and more liberal than the Huffington Post, which I consider the bottom of barrel journalism. Also, I'd be curious to see where Salon would end up, but maybe they are so bad they are listed on a different axis quadrant.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:09 am to Rover Range
quote:
Fake graph
It's funny because it's true.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:18 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:It's just so cute that you kids actually believe the richest and most powerful entities on the planet care enough for you to tell you the truth.
Hey, when you get a chance, give us your chart on what we should be reading, brother. Thanks.
You're adorable.
Oh, and don't forget the milk and cookies. You-know-who will be sliding down your chimneys soon.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:20 am to TX Tiger
quote:
It's just so cute that you kids actually believe the richest and most powerful entities on the planet care enough for you to tell you the truth.
You're adorable.
but if one wanted to know more "real news" (or however you want to describe it) outside of this elite influence, where would one go? certainly you didn't create this belief system of your's outside of the influence of other like-minded individuals and you at least communicate with those who have realized the plan of the elites and see through their media propaganda
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:23 am to TX Tiger
quote:
You're adorable.
Your gayness is showing.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:25 am to NOLATide
AFter this election and all the Wikileaks emails, Infowars needs to be dead center as the most credible news source. Which is hilarious, shocking, and scary all at once.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I call it common sense. But I'm beginning to waver on that considering the level of ignorance I have found here over the last 12 years.
It's just so cute that you kids actually believe the richest and most powerful entities on the planet care enough for you to tell you the truth.
You're adorable.
but if one wanted to know more "real news" (or however you want to describe it) outside of this elite influence, where would one go?
Too many people think so little of themselves that they don't trust their own instincts and instead rely on other people to think and feel for them. It's sad.
I get my information from life experiences. It isn't rocket surgery, really.
Example: I wanted to learn more about 9/11, I sought out those who were in the buildings when it happened. Their stories are very different from what the establishment wants us to believe.
I talked to military people who had been in Iraq and Afghanistan and heard their versions of why we were over there. Their stories were very different from what the establishment wants us to believe.
It isn't hard to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4.
It is however, impossible to do so when all your information is coming from the sources listed in the graph.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:31 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
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What's crazy is that those sites, according to the graph, are of less journalistic quality and more liberal than the Huffington Post, which I consider the bottom of barrel journalism.
Amazing that anyone could put Huffington Post so closely to the center, yet claim Breitbart is fringe. It's clear the person who made this chart does not take the time to read varying news sources.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:41 am to ironsides
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1) Guardian and WSJ can stay where they are.
2) WTF on the Economist? Needs to move to the same place the Guardian is. Has not been conservative in the least for about a decade.
3) Move the following from "Mainstream" to the same level as MSNBC:
- NPR
- BBC
- WaPo
- NYT
- NBC News
- AP
- Reuters
- CNN
Not sure if ABC was implicated in the wikileaks stuff?
It's kind of hard to place the UK sources. All are slight to heavy left form our perspective. Guardian is left of the Economist and the BBC IMO.
Economist is certainly lefty by American standards, but there is still a heavy emphasis on globalism, "free trade" and varying degrees of classical liberalism.
Of course, all three of those are more useful than 95% of the American media outlets on that list (at least BBC world service, I don't look at the domestic stuff).
Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:10 pm to NOLATide
I think that's about spot on. I would move cnn more to the left but other wise looks correct.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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L O L
"minimal partisan bias"
lists NPR, Wapo, NYT, and CNN
also Slate and Vox are WAY too centralized
Yup.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:01 pm to Pinecone Repair
lol, no drudge even though he gets more views than just about everything on that chart combined.
l.o.l.
l.o.l.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:37 pm to NOLATide
These are the 6 media companies that exist today. There used to be 88. These 6 all get their news from Reuters and the Associated Press. Reuters owns the AP and Rothschilds own Reuters.
So the news organizations are putting out the news that is generated by Reuters and the AP
Lets look at the 6 media companies
GE owns NBC, The Today Show, Dateline, Meat the Press, and MSNBC among others
Westinghouse/CBC inc owns CBC, 60 Minutes, 48 Hours, CBC evening News, CMT, Nashville Network among others
Viacom owns MTV, Showtime, VH1, Comedy Central, Paramount, Nicolodeon, Sundance Channel
Disney owns ABC, ABC news, Primetime, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America, ESPN, Lifetime, A&E, History Channel, E!, Miramax, Touchstone Pictures, among others
Time Warner owns AOL, CNN, HBO, TBS, Warner Bros, TNT, and the largest owner of cable systems in the US
Fox owns Fox news, 20th Century Fox, 132 newspapers and 25 magazines.
The Rothschilds also control international banking as well as our Federal Reserve and most the European nations Central Banks.
If you don't think they aren't protecting their interests and encouraging globalization and are using their control of the media to influence the masses, then you are blind.
I'm sure there will be many attacks to this post but it's not that hard to do research on this.
So the news organizations are putting out the news that is generated by Reuters and the AP
Lets look at the 6 media companies
GE owns NBC, The Today Show, Dateline, Meat the Press, and MSNBC among others
Westinghouse/CBC inc owns CBC, 60 Minutes, 48 Hours, CBC evening News, CMT, Nashville Network among others
Viacom owns MTV, Showtime, VH1, Comedy Central, Paramount, Nicolodeon, Sundance Channel
Disney owns ABC, ABC news, Primetime, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America, ESPN, Lifetime, A&E, History Channel, E!, Miramax, Touchstone Pictures, among others
Time Warner owns AOL, CNN, HBO, TBS, Warner Bros, TNT, and the largest owner of cable systems in the US
Fox owns Fox news, 20th Century Fox, 132 newspapers and 25 magazines.
The Rothschilds also control international banking as well as our Federal Reserve and most the European nations Central Banks.
If you don't think they aren't protecting their interests and encouraging globalization and are using their control of the media to influence the masses, then you are blind.
I'm sure there will be many attacks to this post but it's not that hard to do research on this.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:55 pm to bolo
It's actually quite hard.
For instance, please draw the line between the AP and the Rothschild family using non-blog sources.
I easily found your source material on this, and they don't even go as far as you do in making this claim.
For instance, please draw the line between the AP and the Rothschild family using non-blog sources.
I easily found your source material on this, and they don't even go as far as you do in making this claim.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:15 pm to Pettifogger
I get what you are saying.
I think this is one thing where you have to connect the dots.
The Rothschilds family keeps themselves out of the news. You never hear of them as being listed among the wealthiest although they are far richer than the Bill Gates of the world.
Let's look at the Bilderberg Group that meets yearly with no press involved, which is largely a Rothschild creation. The attendees are among the world's elite with major players in media, industry, banking, world leaders, etc attending. Their agenda has been leaked before which directs the media the direction they are expected to report the news or lead over the next year or more.
If you look at the United Nations and the one individual who help make it happen, Rockefeller, and the association between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, then you can begin connecting the dots quite easily.
If you look at the mission statement and the agenda of the United Nations, the Trilateral commission, International banking, etc and look at the major players and their common goal of globalization then it is more easily seen.
I think this is one thing where you have to connect the dots.
The Rothschilds family keeps themselves out of the news. You never hear of them as being listed among the wealthiest although they are far richer than the Bill Gates of the world.
Let's look at the Bilderberg Group that meets yearly with no press involved, which is largely a Rothschild creation. The attendees are among the world's elite with major players in media, industry, banking, world leaders, etc attending. Their agenda has been leaked before which directs the media the direction they are expected to report the news or lead over the next year or more.
If you look at the United Nations and the one individual who help make it happen, Rockefeller, and the association between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, then you can begin connecting the dots quite easily.
If you look at the mission statement and the agenda of the United Nations, the Trilateral commission, International banking, etc and look at the major players and their common goal of globalization then it is more easily seen.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:28 pm to NOLATide
When I saw where NYT was
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:32 pm to NOLATide
I saw a different graphic, that showed NBC and ABC news clearly left leaning.
I agree that the Wall Street Journal is pretty neutral.
My personal experiences from NPR are pretty neutral, except when they had others on during the election. They tended to lean towards left-leaning pundits then. Aside from that, most of their pieces are either direct AP reports or stories without much of a political lean to them (or politics in other countries).
A lot of those I don't read/watch/listen to (on both sides) so I don't have an opinion on most.
Also, on the far left, the red image - all I can make out is the word "Report". No idea who that is.
I agree that the Wall Street Journal is pretty neutral.
My personal experiences from NPR are pretty neutral, except when they had others on during the election. They tended to lean towards left-leaning pundits then. Aside from that, most of their pieces are either direct AP reports or stories without much of a political lean to them (or politics in other countries).
A lot of those I don't read/watch/listen to (on both sides) so I don't have an opinion on most.
Also, on the far left, the red image - all I can make out is the word "Report". No idea who that is.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:40 pm to bolo
quote:
I get what you are saying.
I think this is one thing where you have to connect the dots.
The Rothschilds family keeps themselves out of the news. You never hear of them as being listed among the wealthiest although they are far richer than the Bill Gates of the world.
Let's look at the Bilderberg Group that meets yearly with no press involved, which is largely a Rothschild creation. The attendees are among the world's elite with major players in media, industry, banking, world leaders, etc attending. Their agenda has been leaked before which directs the media the direction they are expected to report the news or lead over the next year or more.
If you look at the United Nations and the one individual who help make it happen, Rockefeller, and the association between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, then you can begin connecting the dots quite easily.
If you look at the mission statement and the agenda of the United Nations, the Trilateral commission, International banking, etc and look at the major players and their common goal of globalization then it is more easily seen.
You seem pretty rational about this, so I don't want to be too much of a dick, but you said it was easily shown and it simply isn't.
That the Rothschilds maintain influence in a manner that defies traceable connections is of course correct. But you're claiming very direct ties (and I know other people make similar claims), and I just don't think those can be substantiated without buying into broader and far more vague theories about how their control is exercised.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:47 pm to Radiojones
Some interesting graphs:
Apparently if both sides are brought together, it will be because of the History and Discovery channels. I saw one graph elsewhere that showed the one type of entertainment enjoyed equally by both sides were documentaries. Because, you know...
Apparently if both sides are brought together, it will be because of the History and Discovery channels. I saw one graph elsewhere that showed the one type of entertainment enjoyed equally by both sides were documentaries. Because, you know...
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