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In hindsight and after the dust has cleared. I have a question about the hire

Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:53 pm
The #1 guy (Jimbo) didn't really want to come here. Then LSU didn't want to negotiate with the #2 guy (Herman). So they settled for the interim coach.

My question is, with the way it played out, what the hell was Alleva doing for the past two months?!?! The situation played out like Alleva only had one day to prepare for the hiring process.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66858 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:54 pm to
Hoping O woudl win out and make his job super easy

Then just phoning it in anyway.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:56 pm to
Alleva was always gonna hire O. Every press conference, press release, and LSU website, etc. has been calling O the "head coach" since the day Les was fired. The media were the only ones using the word "interim". LSU never did. Half arse coaching search to make it look legit, but he was always hiring O.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:57 pm to
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the dust has cleared

Don't be fooled. The radioactive fallout will be present for years to come.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43895 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:08 pm to
A ex felon and former radio host is running my favorite team. frick my life
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1327 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:12 pm to
Alleva had made up his mind, he was sitting on his arse for two months just hoping O would win out so he wouldn't look like a complete idiot.

He oversaw the worst "national coaching search" I've ever seen.
Posted by bencoleman
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37887 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:14 pm to
still being a baby back bitch I see
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

My question is, with the way it played out, what the hell was Alleva doing for the past two months?!?! The situation played out like Alleva only had one day to prepare for the hiring process.


maybe in that 2 mos they reviewed all potential candidates and the final 3 were Jimbo, Herman, and Orgeron....I guess you think it should have been open to public and apply within for the job?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:33 pm to
it came down to the end - because both jimbo & herman were not going to leave their teams before the season ended! they were not going to pull a deal like the guy @ louisville, did to atlanta
Posted by magicman0001
Cresson, TX (DFW area)
Member since Dec 2008
1129 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:37 pm to
From everything I read (which is a lot) We refused to accept the counter-offer from Sexton- which I'm glad we did. Jimmy wasn't worth the original offer, much less the counter-offer.

We refused to get in a bidding war over an unproven coach. Thank God.. Because he would've wound up in Texas sooner or later, anyway.

The other coaches? Naah- Unless their names were Nick Saban or Urban Meyer, forget it. Oh- and Chris Pedersen wasn't coming, so scratch him, too.

Then came "The Interview." Orgeron brought his now infamous binder. Complete with his whole life of miscues, lessons learned, hard knocks, soft knocks, how he'll improve all of those things, what he thinks LSU needs, what LSU REALLY needs, how he plans to meet them in the middle, what coaches he thinks can pull this off- and if the coaches aren't available, the types of schemes they use so we can get the best options available to pull this off.. All at a discount price so he'll have money to lure those said coaches to LSU.

Then he mentioned the words "no buyout.." Alleva started humping air at this point. His proactive thought process (what little he does have) started kicking in. The risk would be for 3-4 years. All the while Alleva and the rest of the brASS could be keeping track of the other potential elite coaches coming up through the ranks.. you know, those whom they were scared to pull the trigger on this time. In 3-4 years there will be a much more solid resume for those coaches. In the meantime, recruiting would continue to be strong. So IF/when the time comes, we get that elite young coach with a roster full of talent.

Alleva blew his w*d and stood his ground. He's eyeing the future. Win-win

This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

In hindsight and after the dust has cleared. I have a question about the hireThe #1 guy (Jimbo) didn't really want to come here. Then LSU didn't want to negotiate with the #2 guy (Herman). So they settled for the interim coach. My question is, with the way it played out, what the hell was Alleva doing for the past two months?!?! The situation played out like Alleva only had one day to prepare for the hiring process.



That is a very valid point. I believe that O will succeed but I'm not positive. He did not win all of the games he was supposed to but the team did play like a completely diff team once he took over. What if O would've lost more games? What exactly are we paying Alleva for?
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5446 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

My question is, with the way it played out, what the hell was Alleva doing for the past two months?


It made absolutely no sense to have an opening in Sept.. no real candidate was going to commit until mid-november at the earliest, they were going to see what else was out there... Alleva should have kept Miles until after AL game, then he would not have had an interim coach try (and successfully do) steal the job, whoever got 8 games vs those teams would have went 6-2.. Hell if Alleva just forces Cameron out in Sept, Miles may still be here
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:56 pm to
A question only the committee can answer
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42041 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:31 am to
Why do you care? Seriously....

You've already shown your agenda
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

what the hell was Alleva doing for the past two months?!?!


Seems clear to me that, for whatever the reason, O was his pick from the beginning and he did whatever he had to do to insure he got who he wanted.

The funny thing is LSU fans who bitched non-stop about Les not being successful enough and how LSU deserved better are now trying to justify a scam search and back a guy who hasn't don't shite as a HC other than interim coach a few games with another man's talent and coaching staff.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:03 am to
quote:

The situation played out like Alleva only had one day to prepare for the hiring process.

Texas had 20 hours and got their guy. That should tell you all you need to know about Alleva and his grand "search".
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:04 am to
If O wins 10+ games a year none of this will matter. If he craters like he did at Ole Miss, everyone in the loop should be fired.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3534 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:26 pm to
He wanted Orgeron and let things play out to that end. There was no serious coaching search.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4309 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:22 pm to
THIS. Regardless of which side of the fence you fell on about O once he was hired, not a single one of us would've wanted him retained before his first game. So yea, what the frick was Alleva doing this whole time? It just shows the epic failure of the athletic department under him. Even if you wanted O to be the coach, you should be very very disappointed that the Athletic Director at a program like LSU couldn't get his first or second choice to be on the sidelines next season. It doesn't speak well for his abilities as an AD or how future coaching searches would go.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:32 pm to
We got the right guy. I know it.
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