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re: Article: "Record number of car buyers 'upside down' on trade-ins"

Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:13 am to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14837 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:13 am to
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I'd finance one for 10 years if I wanted it.


This is very true. If you're not a shithead and get a good rate, you're talking a couple 100 dollars every yr on finance charges, which comes out to about $30/month. Whoop-dee-fricking-do.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51464 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:13 am to
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User cars have become a huge rip off.


Yeah but with prices starting to apparently tick down for used cars, isn't it possible that used cars could start becoming better deals again?

I hope so.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167705 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:14 am to
There are some bubbles in our economy. Cars/recreational vehicles/boats, housing, and college tuition. They are going to pop soon and it will make 2007 look like a small hiccup in comparison.

Foreclosures are suddenly spiking across America
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82759 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:14 am to
"Easy credit" has GOT to be a myth. I'm in top 5% of earners and have great credit and I get harassed to death every fricking time I want to make a move financially. Where the frick are these "easy lenders" that I keep hearing about?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:15 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40304 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:15 am to
Im gonna be waiting a whole lot longer for the shitnado in DFW Housing/Rent to happen. It's getting beyond out of hand.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:15 am to
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Meh. I recently got a new car because I wanted zero chance of flood damage. I picked up a vehicle I can easily put 140k miles or so on for 23k. I'll have that thing paid off before all the warranties expire, and continue making payments to myself for a couple of years after so I can be ready for when it bites the dust.



You can a certified used car with no possibility of damage, a model year old, maybe 10k-15k miles for about 70% of the price of a brand new one. Barring that, if you have a good grease monkey that you trust, he can give you the prognosis on a private seller.

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In my opinion, as long as you aren't going insane price-wise, new cars can be a good way to go.



Dude, you eat 10% of cost by driving off the lot. That's a terrible financial choice.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14837 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:15 am to
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shitnado in DFW Housing/Rent to happen.


Elaborate.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51464 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:16 am to
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Im gonna be waiting a whole lot longer for the shitnado in DFW Housing/Rent to happen. It's getting beyond out of hand.


Major city housing prices are insane.

It makes choosing to live in a mid-size city that isn't as sexy much, much, much more appealing.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25955 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:16 am to
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There are some bubbles in our economy. Cars/recreational vehicles/boats, housing, and college tuition. They are going to pop soon and it will make 2007 look like a small hiccup in comparison.


So what should I do?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167705 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 am to
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Cash for clunkers




Cash for clunkers killed the used car market and many people that relied on buying those $1000 to $2000 vehicles for cash could no longer do so. It forced them to go into debt they didn't need to go into. It was a horrible and crippling policy to a lot of people and has contributed to the auto pricing bubble we are seeing now.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27540 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 am to
I buy 10 year old 4x4s for under 8k. Put 1k into maintenance off the start. Beat on them for two years and 80k miles. Sell them for a grand less than I paid. Then do it all over again.

That's basically 2 cents per mile of depreciation. Average vehicle depreciates around 12 to 35 cents per mile.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 am to
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wage stagnation, shite job growth, and foreign visas killing white collar jobs


this is nothing compared to the enormous regulatory burden...probably accounts for 25% of a car price

and the restricted consumer access to the market by bullshite dealer monopolies is probably another 25% or more

that shite is so un-American I cant believe it still exists. You should be able to order a car just like a pizza. Amazon could have it in your driveway next morning.

frick the dealer network.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72636 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 am to
Are you saying a college tuition bubble is about to burst and the costs will plummet?
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 am to
if you buy a car with no money down, then you're more than likely upside down after the purchase. remember, ttl is tacked onto the loan as well. not to mention if you buy gap and extended warranty as well.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40304 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:18 am to
Rent anywhere north of 635 for anything more than 700sqft is a house mortgage.

Californians and NE's moving into the area with capital because housing is infinitely times more in those areas are now artificially driving housing prices anywhere from 50-100k more than it was worth 3 years ago (I check realtor every frickin day :( )
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167705 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:18 am to
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So what should I do?



Call Christian Bale and ask him how to short the economy.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:18 am to
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Are you saying a college tuition bubble is about to burst and the costs will plummet?



It depends on the Feds reactions. The bubble was created by no collateral, guaranteed credit to any dumbfrick who applies. Colleges know they can get that sweet, sweet money without taking on any risk themselves.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167705 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:19 am to
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Are you saying a college tuition bubble is about to burst and the costs will plummet?



I am saying that loans won't be paid back by many and it will crush some parts of our financial markets.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21974 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:19 am to
the goal is to build up what you're worth. if you buy a vehicle with cash, it will lose value every single day. so......if you purchase a 40k vehicle today, it's worth 35k next year. the next year, it's worth 30k. so on and so forth.

save your money and buy something that doesn't depreciate every single day.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:20 am to
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save your money and buy something that doesn't depreciate every single day.



If it floats, flies, or fricks, you're better off renting it.
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