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re: Article: "Record number of car buyers 'upside down' on trade-ins"

Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:21 am to
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The average new car loan is for 68 months


Car salesman "how much you want to pay a month" god people are suckers
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:21 am to
You're under the impression that I'm not exceptionally well off which is false and also operating under the notion that people should live outside of their means rather than practice fiscal responsibility. Sounds like your financial manager isn't giving you good advice.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14820 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:22 am to
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Rent anywhere north of 635 for anything more than 700sqft is a house mortgage.


You mean anything less than 700 sqft?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51332 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Car salesman "how much you want to pay a month" god people are suckers


First thing I was asked.

When I told him that I wanted to discuss total price, not the payment, he actually had to pause and sort of reset.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:22 am to
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Never buy a vehicle that you can't pay for with cash.


Don't know why this is getting so many down votes. It's one of the best financial rules to live by.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51332 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:23 am to
quote:

quote:
Never buy a vehicle that you can't pay for with cash.

quote:


Don't know why this is getting so many down votes. It's one of the best financial rules to live by.



Because it is pretty unrealistic for the middle class given auto prices.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55506 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:24 am to
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Don't know why this is getting so many down votes. It's one of the best financial rules to live by.



Because people don't like to drive in something that isn't en vogue or really nice.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
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Vehicles are worst investment a human can make.


That is part of the problem. They are never an investment they are always an expense. The other part of the problem is people making 50k a year driving 70k dollar vehicles, the math will never work out in their favor.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
quote:

When I told him that I wanted to discuss total price, not the payment, he actually had to pause and sort of reset.


it's too bad more people aren't as informed as you are. I guess some are so poor they only care about monthly note and not the cost of the vehicle. Another reason they stay poor. I wonder how many times someone says $400 a month and the sales guy comes back and says we can do it for $423 a month...its only $25 a month for 72 months
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55378 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
Leftys want to forgive all auto debt...
Posted by GeauxDoc
Highland Road
Member since Sep 2010
2545 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
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Jcorye1


True. But paying cash when you can is a still a good option if feasible. The problem is that the people who are underwater don't have the credit to qualify for a 1 - 2 percent interest loan so that's simply not any more of an option for them then cash.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14820 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
Is Car Gurus worth a shite, as far as finding a good median price for vehicles?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55506 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 am to
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Because it is pretty unrealistic for the middle class given auto prices.



Buy a 6k or 7k priced mid 2000s Camry. It's totally realistic if you can lower your standards for something that allows you to move from A to B.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167420 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:26 am to
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Because it is pretty unrealistic for the middle class given auto prices.



I am middle class and bought an 18-month-old vehicle for cash earlier this year. I hate owing money on anything and no way I am paying what they want for new trucks currently. I am ahead of the KBB value on it with no money owed. It can be done unless you just want the latest and greatest.

Prior to that I would always buy new and realized what a stupid investment it is. I even got one with 0% financing and it was still pretty stupid considering the depreciation rate on a vehicle.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40141 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:26 am to
LOL yes my coffee hasnt kicked in this morning
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72604 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:27 am to
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If it floats, flies, or fricks, you're better off renting it.




YOU try to rent a goat that won't run her mouth these days.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55506 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:27 am to
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Is Car Gurus worth a shite, as far as finding a good median price for vehicles?



KBB is standard, never used Car Gurus. Half of these valuation services didn't exist the last time I bought a vehicle.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:28 am to
They aren't focused on practicing financially sound and logical decisions but rather practicing justification of if they can afford it over time. That's why.

Either way I'm not one to talk I bought my wife a brand new Lexus for Christmas and even though I paid cash it's a hugely depreciating asset and will do no return and not have the longevity to pass down to my kid
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51332 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:29 am to
Anybody in this thread lease their vehicle?

I'm always interested in hearing reasoning behind making the choice to lease. I feel like leasing gets unnecessarily shite on sometimes.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:30 am to
It's absolutely not unrealistic buddy. People just insist on keeping up with the joneses and want to have something new and shiny rather than focus on long term and accumulate wealth that can turn into income generating assets.

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