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Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:57 am to
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Had the American Civil War ended with the South being independent, the course of history would have been altered. We'll never know how it would have been.


Forgive me but I thought WWI was the result of convoluted treaties and the rise of regional nationalism in Europe. America was isolated at the time. Why would the independent confederacy have an impact on whether WWI happens?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:06 am to
And let's be honest, an independent South would have needed more than 40 years to reconstruct themselves enough to become a world player. They had virtually no industry and their country was ravaged by war. Hardly a formula for a quick ascension into world politics
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:17 am to
He didn't say there would not have been a WWI just an altered outcome. As it is generally argued the intervention of the United States made victory by the Allies assured.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:38 am to
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Forgive me but I thought WWI was the result of convoluted treaties and the rise of regional nationalism in Europe. America was isolated at the time. Why would the independent confederacy have an impact on whether WWI happens?


Without a renewed push from the Yankees, Germany likely wins.

Germany wins, the horrible reparations placed upon Germany don't send them into a malaise and depression.

Those conditions don't exist, Hitler doesn't rise to power, No WW2.

Although we might have a Red Alert scenario with the soviets.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm to
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Forgive me but I thought WWI was the result of convoluted treaties and the rise of regional nationalism in Europe. America was isolated at the time. Why would the independent confederacy have an impact on whether WWI happens?


It's the Butterfly Effect. If it weren't for the American Revolution for instance, the French Revolution would have never happened (at least of any semblance that we historically know it as). If America had lost the Civil War, then that would have massive effects on trade and industrialization around the world. A Mexican Empire could have formed. We may have lost the Spanish American War if that still came into fruition. No telling how history is subtlety effected by a war 50 years from before.

I can almost guarantee that Hitler wouldn't have come to power or even been conceived if the South had won the war, so WWII is totally different, especially on the Pacific front for how we militarized Japan after the Civil War.
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