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re: These protests... It's going to destroy the Democratic Party

Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:36 pm to
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The dude working 50 hours a week in Wisconsin doesn't want to hear about this bull shite. Give him a better job and less taxes...


You're right, that guy doesn't want to hear about it. But he will hear about it because it's going to be forced down his throat. The socialism aspect is ripe for expansion. It's envy & entitlement.

The guy doesn't want higher taxes? Tough. We have to pay for their Medicaid, SNAP, etc. It affects the working guy because he just wants to work 50 hrs, have a home, & a nice life. But he won't be able to because of the debt, unfunded liabilities, & the ever-increasing budget.

It's going to bring us down.
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5070 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:44 pm to
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It's going to bring us down.


I felt this exact way 48 hours ago. I thought the propaganda was to strong. I was surprised by how he did in the rust belt, and now realize people had enough. This liberal push wasn't strong 8 years ago, so it felt good to vote for Obama. The social climate now is much more hostile to the average white person, and thus they had enough and voted.

Trump has house and senate majority. Barring a complete collapse he will hold onto that for the next 4 years. He will be able to get things done, and should be able to get reelected. So, 8 years of getting things done and improving the country will legitimize the republican party and really challenge the democrat's identity.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20458 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:06 pm to
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You're right, that guy doesn't want to hear about it. But he will hear about it because it's going to be forced down his throat. The socialism aspect is ripe for expansion. It's envy & entitlement.

The guy doesn't want higher taxes? Tough. We have to pay for their Medicaid, SNAP, etc. It affects the working guy because he just wants to work 50 hrs, have a home, & a nice life. But he won't be able to because of the debt, unfunded liabilities, & the ever-increasing budget.

It's going to bring us down.

It's going to bring the Democratic party down, and it was threatening to bring the US down.

The Trump election was able to spare that.

The hope for the Democratic party is this- about a year into Trump's presidency, it will be clear that he isn't an ultra-right fascist, he's a mainstream outsider who capitalized on mainstream frustration to seize the Republican party. If the Dems are smart, they won't cater to the reactionary crowd, they will try to improve on the Trump model; find a more likable mainstream outsider that the overall population can accept.
If they veer more to the left, they will only carry the Left Coast next time; I don't think New York (with the Wall Street influence) will vote a true Socialist in.
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