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I'm surprised lovie smith isn't doing better than 1-4 so far at Illinois

Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69366 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:21 pm
You'd think someone that was qualified enough to get an NFL HC job and who actually made some noise in the league would use his coaching skills to at least beat Purdue and Cincinnati.

Is Darrel fricking hazel really a better coach than a guy who led his team to a Super Bowl?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60222 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:24 pm to
NFL coaching experience doesn't make talent magically appear on campus
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83583 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:25 pm to
He has a pretty dated defensive philosophy, doesn't he? Might be wrong. Hell their defense might be playing well, idk. And it's super early, give him time.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72251 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:28 pm to
That's a perplexing job. No one has had sustained success since Ray Eliot in the 1950s. And that's loosely using the term "success". The state of Illinois has high school talent. And is surrounded by states with it.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:31 pm to
It sounds like Lovie might bench Wes Lunt for the sophomore Crouch.

If you're intent on rebuilding the program, that's not a bad move. Lunt is done after this year, and he was a pretty average QB when he was healthy.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:35 pm to
I think he needs at least 3 years (this year plus 2 more) to properly evaluate if he's making positive change there. He has to have time to purge the bad apples/poor fits and get his guys in there.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33964 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:39 pm to
It amazes me how people underestimate the ability of coaches in Division I college football. I would actually say it's much more difficult for a defensive coach to succeed in college than in the NFL for various reasons. In the NFL, offenses tend to be homogeneous but in college football, a coach has to prepare for many different offenses over the course of a season. They also have don't have the caliber of athletes in college like they have in pros so it's a lot harder to win games by having a ball-control offense and relying on a great defense to consistently make stops.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:43 pm to
Kurt Kittner ain't walkin through that door. Juice Williams ain't walkin through that door. Hell, J Leman ain't walkin through that door.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:16 pm to
jimmies and joes > x's and o's
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15929 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:20 pm to
Lovie needs some time. He hasn't coached in college for 20 years and wasn't hired until March, mere days after the new AD was hired.

The school also dragged their feet on the player abuse allegations, firing Beckman, firing the former AD and doing a proper coaching search. Shahid Khan reportedly even offered contacts and resources to admins, but the only thing they did was take the interim tag off of Bill Cubit for a few months.

Basically, recruiting was dead for a roster that was already short on talent thanks to Beckman.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:17 pm to
Why be surprised???


Lovie isn't a good coach. He reached a SB with a great D and awful O. I don't know why anyone would hire him, esp a college program.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16650 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
I think people had underestimated how little talent was on that team.
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