re: Options for next summer

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But now, you're glad he took you there, right? I took my oldest son to Alaska about 10 years ago, and all he wanted to do was stay inside and play video games. I wouldn't let him. I would drag him all over the country side - hiking, fishing, sightseeing, etc... He was very reluctant to go. Now he looks back on that trip as one of his most cherished memories.

You are creating memories, not doing what your kids want to do. They may not think they want to go, but they will thank you later.

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a trip to new york city can be just as memorable, if not more so, than going to do something outdoorsy. and I 100% appreciate and love nature and outdoor type vacations. I'm not sure what staying indoors to play video games has to do with a trip to nyc.

you can go hunting and fishing anywhere..... there is only one new york city.

plus if the kids will find it more interesting its a win/win