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re: No bar exam thread
Posted on 7/30/16 at 4:39 pm to LucasP
Posted on 7/30/16 at 4:39 pm to LucasP
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He even admits that ideally, the profession wouldn't exist
Ideally, I wouldn't have to take a shite everyday but it's something I have to do.
I don't understand your argument, there's a lot of things about society that aren't great but we have to deal with everyday. No profession is going around handing out lollipops existing only to contribute to society, they are there to make money. What about the clients I've had call my office thanking us for changing their life? Are there a lot of bad apples in the profession yes, are lawyers needed, yes, do they contribute to society, yes. I would say more than a lot of professions.
The problem is most of the time when somebody comes to a lawyer it's because they are having a problem. Thus, people always associate lawyers with bad times in their life, and if the outcome is not 100% what the client expects it is ALWAYS the lawyers fault. "Why did you let me lose custody of my kids?" "It's not may fault I got drunk got in a wreck and got caught with drugs in the car." It's always the lawyers fault for not fixing it
Posted on 7/30/16 at 4:48 pm to Murtown
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Are there a lot of bad apples in the profession yes, are lawyers needed, yes, do they contribute to society
Laws are necessary, yes. Judges are necessary in order to understand and enforce those laws. Lawyers (yeah I know judges start out as lawyers, but this is a hypothetical) are simply there to manipulate the laws for whomever they are representing. Our legal industry is a fricked up Behemoth of bureaucracy made by lawyers in order to benefit lawyers with no regard for the justice or even fairness that they are there to strive for (in theory anyway). Don't y'all have to read The Trial at some point in law school?
ETA and to this point
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No profession is going around handing out lollipops existing only to contribute to society, they are there to make money. What about the clients I've had call my office thanking us for changing their life?
There's plenty of professionals who go into their field to better society; cops, teachers, firemen, none of them make dick but a lot feel some source of pride and civic duty. They're essentially that horse to which lawyers are the tick.
Even well paid professions can see a positive impact on society. Engineers can look at a bridge they designed or doctors can see patients they've cured. What is the best achievement for a lawyer's career "I got someone a lot of money that already was rightfully theirs and I took some of it for myself".
I'm not an anarchist who wants lawlessness, but if we're going to have a legal system to protect citizens then it shouldn't be reserved for those who can afford it.
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 5:14 pm
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