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re: TDBBL - SOTU - Referendum #1: League Structure Vote

Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:35 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:35 am to
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Roster size

Categories - I'd be interested in incorporating turnovers. Instead of it being a cat by itself, we have assist/turnovers like save/bs in baseball.

Players we can sign extensions- how many, and what is the penalty? Still want this to be primarily a redraft but if you hit on someone low, you can be rewarded. Matt had a good idea. Say you paid 10.00 for someone and want to sign them to anot extension...1st year of ext, they cost 15. The next, 21 and the last 28.

Penalty for cutting someone under contract? Like if you sign someone to a 3 year extension and in year 2 you want to void that contract or whatever.

Do we allow resigning someone after an extension expires? Like if I sign someone to a 1 year extension and it expires, can I do another 1 year deal? I'd say no, but those are things we can talk through. Initially I thought this was going to be ultra complex but I don't think so now since it's only going to involve a couple of guys from each roster and likely not the big names.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:37 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:10 am to
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Roster size


i think in the interest of continuity and with so much change already happening, let's keep the categories and roster size the same. let's let the players at least have the constant of what we know players to be.

so 15 players, our same 8 categories. plus an injury reserve spot.

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Players we can sign extensions- how many, and what is the penalty? Still want this to be primarily a redraft but if you hit on someone low, you can be rewarded. Matt had a good idea. Say you paid 10.00 for someone and want to sign them to anot extension...1st year of ext, they cost 15. The next, 21 and the last 28.

i think you can sign a MAX of three FRANCHISE players to extensions, each for a maximum of three years kept. that's 1/5th the team. 80% of rosters turning over every year.

i think the penalty for re-signing shouldn't be too steep. a year increase etc. mostly people are going for people they really like. additionally, if you really love a player and you want to keep him, and he has a down year, you shouldn't have to pay too much to keep him the next year even if his value has decreased.

i think maybe the solution is:
$3 bump year if you lock him up longterm, sign ($3 signing bonus-no carryover cap cost), year 2 $6, year 3 $9 year deal.
$5 bumps if you want to re-sign him from year to year. Year one, normal cost, second year $10, third year $15
Penalty for cutting bait on a long-term deal? double the number of year to year signings, inversely from years remaining. one year left $10, two years left $20, three years $30

additionally, if one of these players is traded, they are only available at that price for the number of years left on the contract. so if you make a trade, you're gonna have to see if a) you have enough franchise player slots available and b) weigh whether or not you want to "rent" that player for only another couple of years.

for instance if rondo has 3 franchise players signed already. if he trades for another franchise player signed, he's going to have to move one, or drop one and pay the penalty. this encourages trading. some owners will either make the trade for the desirable player, or rondo will be forced to pay the luxury tax when he drops one of his other contracts. it also encourages flexibility. it will be a gamble to declare all three franchise players or keep slots open in case someone needs a willing trade partner.

additionally, the price of the traded player rolls over to the new owner. KD starts at $35 on a three year escalating deal is traded. the new owner will have to pay the signed price, not the adjusted yearly value of KD. so if it's a second year KD on a 3 year deal, he's at $38.

if he's second year and was re-signed year to year he'd be at $45

additionally, i think you give the player the option to additionally re-sign them for the remaining two years of their ownership at the $6, $9 escalating rate. like signing an extension with a new team, but they have to declare that right away, otherwise it goes yearly.

i like this because it mimics the nba payroll. additionally, it will encourage three way trades to accommodate these roster limitations. this is super fun.


This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 2:27 am
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:50 am to
Here's my initial thoughts after playing around in the setting last night:

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Auction $ to start



Standard $250

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Categories


I like our 8. I've played in a TO league before, it's not really a good cat.

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Players we can sign extensions- how many, and what is the penalty?


I'm wondering if this doesn't even need to be capped. If owner wants to pay inflation on bunch of players, more power to them.

Has to be annual salary increase, $5-7.

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Penalty for cutting someone under contract?


Fantrax setting is a % of the remaining amount owed. I think 50-75% is a decent penalty.

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Do we allow resigning someone after an extension expires?


Pretty sure fantrax setting says this is a no. We could do a rule that you can resign an expiring, but salary increase will double.


One setting I really like is the salary cap setting. This will force salaries to match-up in trades. (I can't send my $5 value contract guy to a bottom feeder for their $65 Durant.)

Also think we can do injury exceptions with that. If you lose a guy for the year to injury, you can drop him and get a portion of that salary added to your salary cap.

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