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re: Do you go to church every Sunday?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:27 pm to xxKylexx
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:27 pm to xxKylexx
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I have no idea what would take it's place but I know there would be a hell of a lot less hate and violence if it didn't exis
you're wrong
religion (in this example) is just one example of in/out group identification. it's a function of evolution
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:27 pm to The First Cut
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Science began in the 1400s.
no, just no
you think the Romans built the aqueducts without science, bruv?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you think the Romans built the aqueducts without science,
or built the Pyramids without science ?
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:40 pm to retired trucker
frick it
you think Göbekli Tepe was built without science?
you think Göbekli Tepe was built without science?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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frick it you think Göbekli Tepe was built without science?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:44 pm to The First Cut
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The First Cut
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Please provide a link to this incident where a presidential candidate said homosexuals should be put to death followed by a cheering crowd.
Just to help you a bit with your poor reading comprehension, I stated that the comment was made by the person introducing Cruz.
About the 2:50 mark.
Why Ted is losing to a millionaire slum lord
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:45 pm to retired trucker
you can't beat that one, literally
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:57 pm to TechDawg2007
"For instance, Bishop Sheen had led a retreat for priests one weekend. One of the talks he gave was on the Real Presence of the Eucharist. One priest in attendance evidently was struggling with his faith. Indeed, he had a hard time believing that Jesus Christ was really present- body, blood, soul and divinity –under the appearance of bread and wine. After expressing his doubts, Bishop Sheen explained the doctrine of the Real Presece to the priest in a variety of ways. When that did not help assuage the doubts of the priest, with a keen spiritual instinct, Sheen abruptly asked him in an accusatory manner: “Is she a blond or a brunette?” Becoming indignant, the priest responded by asking what the bishop meant. Bishop Sheen then clarified his question: “Is the woman you are now with a blond or a brunette?” Absolutely incensed, and in so many words, the priest retorted back, “How dare you accuse me of being with a woman!!” Then he stormed off. The next day the doubting priest, who was deeply offended by the accusation the day before, approached Bishop Sheen and said, “She is a blond.” This good bishop understood that the moral blight of sexual sin dims the light of spiritual truth. He was able to connect the dots in a moments notice." LINK
"On being blunt, I recall a story Patrick Madrid told on his radio show once. He was traveling, in the airport I think, and this woman found out somehow that he was a Catholic apologist. They got to talking and she expressed a bunch of hurt, I mean, tons of hurt, and much of it having to do with Catholic family members, etc. She was telling him how free not being in the Church felt to her now. She seemed to be one of those people who loved to just put it all out there with strangers.
Anyway, she eventually asked him what he thought. Patrick blurted out something like, I think you need to go to confession. Her eyes immediately changed, sunk, she got angry and said something to the effect of, see, this is why I'm glad I left. Got up and walked away.
Understandably Patrick felt like an idiot and kept replaying the interchange over and over in his head for days. What could I have said instead? How could I have been more Christlike? How could I have been so stupid?
Cut to a couple weeks later, she looked him up (knowing he was a radio guy), and contacted him to let him know she went to confession and received the Eucharist for the first time in ages, because he got through to her. He was blown away."
"On being blunt, I recall a story Patrick Madrid told on his radio show once. He was traveling, in the airport I think, and this woman found out somehow that he was a Catholic apologist. They got to talking and she expressed a bunch of hurt, I mean, tons of hurt, and much of it having to do with Catholic family members, etc. She was telling him how free not being in the Church felt to her now. She seemed to be one of those people who loved to just put it all out there with strangers.
Anyway, she eventually asked him what he thought. Patrick blurted out something like, I think you need to go to confession. Her eyes immediately changed, sunk, she got angry and said something to the effect of, see, this is why I'm glad I left. Got up and walked away.
Understandably Patrick felt like an idiot and kept replaying the interchange over and over in his head for days. What could I have said instead? How could I have been more Christlike? How could I have been so stupid?
Cut to a couple weeks later, she looked him up (knowing he was a radio guy), and contacted him to let him know she went to confession and received the Eucharist for the first time in ages, because he got through to her. He was blown away."
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:58 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Couldn't that be turned around to: " since its only an hour a week, and you're not really there for the actual preaching/teaching, why go at all?"
As someone who grew up going to church, the authenticity of church was ruined by the casual way people go to church, but then put on their serious hat as if they actually care about it at all. All while being selfish, vain, dishonest, and willingly exhibiting these traits.
Church is an attraction and social time, nothing more it seems. Its like a piece of clothing you wear. Yeah, you're christian, check that box and stamp it on your drivers license. People have ruined it for me. No I dont go anymore.
I feel the exact same way.
I feel like I am a spiritual person and I believe in God but the whole organized religion itself seems very flawed and corrupt to me. I've also always been very uneasy in regards to the ritualistic nature of it. Its always been forced upon me as my family is pretty religious.
If you are just going through the motions or are just going to judge others, than why bother?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:06 pm to tigeruniverse
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the doubts of the priest, with a keen spiritual instinct, Sheen abruptly asked him in an accusatory manner: “Is she a blond or a brunette?” Becoming indignant, the priest responded by asking what the bishop meant. Bishop Sheen then clarified his question: “Is the woman you are now with a blond or a brunette?” Absolutely incensed, and in so many words, the priest retorted back, “How dare you accuse me of being with a woman!!
So the doctorine is clouded by biology....seems reasonable
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and contacted him to let him know she went to confession and received the Eucharist for the first time in ages, because he got through to her. He was blown away."
Nothing like a little guilt, shame and fear to fill the seats
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:11 pm to Uncle Stu
Truth hurts.
The Catholic Church is in the business of saving souls. If she wanted to fill those empty seats She would have allow same sex marriage, divorce, contraception and abortion a long time ago. Preaching the Gospels in season and out of season.
"Domine, quo vadis?"
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to fill the seats
The Catholic Church is in the business of saving souls. If she wanted to fill those empty seats She would have allow same sex marriage, divorce, contraception and abortion a long time ago. Preaching the Gospels in season and out of season.
"Domine, quo vadis?"
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
well, for that aspect, probably
are you up for a challenge?
are you up for a challenge?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:38 pm to TechDawg2007
Phhhttt no, I don't go any other day of the week either.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:48 pm to tigeruniverse
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Truth hurts
that it does, especially a truth that's founded on scientific facts and empirical data
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The Catholic Church is in the business of saving souls
it is a business, no denying that
of course any organized religion has to rely on a fear based advertising campaign to produce a market and customer base, how else to sell its product?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:55 pm to Uncle Stu
I haven't been in 13 years. The last time was for my niece's christening.
I might start going again just for the networking opportunities. Gotta find the rich church within easy driving distance.
I might start going again just for the networking opportunities. Gotta find the rich church within easy driving distance.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:19 pm to Uncle Stu
If I preach to you a wealth and prosperity gospel you would accuse me of profiting. If I preach to you a gospel about the evil of sins but without any consequences then you'll accuse me of lying. Like I said earlier, the truth hurts and all of us are free to accept it or not.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:24 pm to TechDawg2007
Usually we go about 3 Sundays a month. Always shoot for every week. We actually go on Saturday afternoon, though. :Catholic:
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:27 pm to tigeruniverse
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Like I said earlier, the truth hurts and all of us are free to accept it or not.
that's where we differ greatly on the definiton of "truth"
subjective vs objective - you can have your own opinions, you can't have your own facts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:31 pm to tigeruniverse
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The Catholic Church is in the business of saving souls
Is this a recent change?
Posted on 4/24/16 at 3:35 pm to Uncle Stu
I expected you to already understood the truth I'm talking about is according Christ teachings. I felt it was unnecessary to clarify for you clearly what is facts or opinions. I guess I was wrong.
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