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Big time programs that have hired assistant coaches...
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:04 pm
LSU fans are probably still gun shy about hiring a coordinator to take over the program due to how the Mike Archer era ended. What major schools have hired/promoted coaches without head coaching experience and how did they fare?
Coaches that have done well:
Bob Stoops at Oklahoma
Mark Richt at Georgia
Lloyd Carr at Michigan
Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia
Mike Leach at Texas Tech
And not so well:
Ron Zook at Florida
Mike Archer at LSU
Mike Shula at Alabama
Larry Coker at Miami did well, then fizzled.
Who else? I guess I am hoping to make the point that we shouldn't eliminate coordinators from the potential candidate pool because of what happened with Archer.
Coaches that have done well:
Bob Stoops at Oklahoma
Mark Richt at Georgia
Lloyd Carr at Michigan
Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia
Mike Leach at Texas Tech
And not so well:
Ron Zook at Florida
Mike Archer at LSU
Mike Shula at Alabama
Larry Coker at Miami did well, then fizzled.
Who else? I guess I am hoping to make the point that we shouldn't eliminate coordinators from the potential candidate pool because of what happened with Archer.
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 3:47 pm
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Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:06 pm to Chicken
Rich Rodriguez was an assistant at Tulane then Clemson before being hired by WV.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:06 pm to Chicken
Pete Carroll
Mangina
Mangina
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:09 pm to Roaad
quote:was head coach for the NY Jets...
Pete Carroll
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:12 pm to Chicken
quote:
was head coach for the NY Jets...
and taps his feet in the middleton bathroom
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:13 pm to Chicken
Fulmer was hired from within. 1 NC
Carr was hired from within. 1 NC
Croom was an asst in Green Bay and is turning MSU around.
Wasn't BC's coach an asst before this year?
Petrino was an asst before Louisville.
Arnsparger was an asst before coming here.
Carr was hired from within. 1 NC
Croom was an asst in Green Bay and is turning MSU around.
Wasn't BC's coach an asst before this year?
Petrino was an asst before Louisville.
Arnsparger was an asst before coming here.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:14 pm to Chicken
quote:Doh. . .forgot. . .
was head coach for the NY Jets...
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:17 pm to Macavity92
quote:true, but he also had some HC experience when Major was sick and missed some games.
Fulmer was hired from within.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:17 pm to Chicken
quote:
was head coach for the NY Jets...
He was the coach for the patriots. I know he coached the jets also but i thought that was a DC job.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:19 pm to dj30
quote:Patriots and one year as HC for the Jets...
He was the coach for the patriots. I know he coached the jets also but i thought that was a DC job
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:24 pm to Chicken
chicken, i made this point the other night, but every coach just about has been hired as a HC from some type of assistant job at some point early in their career
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:25 pm to Chicken
quote:
Who else?
Done well
Charlie Weis - NFL OC
Mark Mangino - OC at OU
Cutcliffe
Not so well
Karl Dorrell - Neuheisel's old OC at Colorado I believe/ NFL asst.
Ed Orgeron - USC DL coach
Chuck Amato - FSU
Jury's still out
Ron Prince - OC at UVA
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
quote:True, Lester, but how many times did those coaches first become head coach at a smaller school, or one that wasn't a traditional power?
chicken, i made this point the other night, but every coach just about has been hired as a HC from some type of assistant job at some point early in their career
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:28 pm to ATLTiger
Charlie Weis?
I'd say jury is still out
I'd say jury is still out
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:29 pm to ATLTiger
quote:Jury is still out after this season
Charlie Weis - NFL OC
quote:same...36-36 at Kansas, after being 11-1 this year.
Mark Mangino - OC at OU
quote:I don't consider these guys to be at major schools, or traditional powers...
Not so well
Ed Orgeron - USC DL coach
Chuck Amato - FSU
Jury's still out
Ron Prince - OC at UVA
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:29 pm to Chicken
With this said; who is out there now to consider? Tenuta was getting a lot of mention last year at this time; now he's unemployed.
Could you add Mike Stoops to the list -- wasn't he OU coordinator now Zona coach. I'd say jury still out there.
Could you add Mike Stoops to the list -- wasn't he OU coordinator now Zona coach. I'd say jury still out there.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:37 pm to Chicken
UCLA, NC State and Ole Miss aren't major schools? Maybe not the last 2 (big maybe), but UCLA?
Mangino's gotten KU to a few bowls before now, that's doing well in my book. It's KU.
Mangino's gotten KU to a few bowls before now, that's doing well in my book. It's KU.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:38 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
quote:
Tenuta was getting a lot of mention last year at this time; now he's unemployed.
Actually he still has a job as interim HC with a shot at being permanent.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:39 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
Different situation. I haven't taken the time to look uo every record but each one of those assistants that has succeded took over a program that was losing at the time.
It's a lot to ask of an asst. to come into a program that wins 10 games every year and continue that success.
That being said, I think Muschamps going to be a hell of a coach. Somewhere..........
It's a lot to ask of an asst. to come into a program that wins 10 games every year and continue that success.
That being said, I think Muschamps going to be a hell of a coach. Somewhere..........
Posted on 11/29/07 at 3:40 pm to Chicken
quote:
Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia
I thought he had no HC exp. either, but he'd actually coached at some smaller schools before WV.
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