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gfycat mega-post: why is Lindsey Scott so underated

Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:43 am
so, here's the deal; Scott is one of my favorite prospects in this entire class, I think he's great, yet he's not even ranked in the top 1000.

this is baffling to me, and all I can come up with is the fact that, in large part, how the players are rated is based on how they perform at the camps and in the drills. and when you watch someone like Shea Patterson, the vast majority of his highlights are very quarterback-y.

he does his drop, plants his feet, makes a good throw. over and over and over. he might be the best player in America when it comes to doing the drills in camps.

this is not an insult, btw, Shea is very good, he plays like a Manning or Brady.

Lindsey Scott doesn't play like that at all. he's much more like Farve or Aaron Rodgers or Mariota or Russel Wilson. his feet and his release point change constantly, usually because he's moving around to buy time

here are 6 examples of what I mean, his throwing motion is different in every one, and every one is a great throw



album 1

none of the 4 QBs I just compared Scott too were heavily recruited either. only Mariota went to a big program and Chip Kelly didnt even want him, Helfrich had to push hard to get him. the other 3 went to USM, a juco, and NC State.

every year in the NFL draft you hear talk about a QB's release, you see guys like Tebow go to specialized coaches to change their mechanics and "fix" their delivery. so I think scouts see a player like this, whose motion changes so often, and have no idea what to really make of it.

It's easy to make Shea Patterson a 5 star, but I watch Russel Wilson sometimes and even now it feels like half his plays are blind random luck. very obviously that's not the case, I think he's proven that, but Scott plays the same way.

here are some more examples of him moving around in the pocket. 1 or 2 are designed roll-outs but most are just him buying time.



album 2

like Mariota (another 3 star), Scott is smart, he makes very quick reads. in these 4 examples you can see him making his decisions very quickly before moving on (i like how he "nopes" the frick out on his first read to the right in this one)



album 3

even under insane pressure he stays cool, moves his feet, and finds his outlets




album 4

which is not to say he cant do a standard drop and set his feet, because that's there too



album 5

his arm is not as strong as Farve or Rodgers, I'm not pretending otherwise, and his accuracy isn't always pin-point but I don't care about that because this isn't a youtube trick shot video. the reality is he has dominated at the highest level for 2 years now.

long story short, I think Scott can be great. I think if he had to gone to Oregon he'd have won a Heisman. if we can actually use what he is and not try to make him something he isnt, he could be the best player in this class. jmo
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22793 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:45 am to
You don't have to sell him to us......he wants us and want him.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57767 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:46 am to
It's up to our coaching staff to develop him to his full potential.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1514 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:49 am to
Great post with real thought out information. Much appreciated.
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8096 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:49 am to
MastrShake


I upvoted your post.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4465 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:49 am to
He appears to be the best QB we've had from a mental standpoint in a long time. I'd put him in the Matt Flynn/Matt Mauck type of mentality. Gritty, team leaders with really good FB IQs. To me, for a QB, that is far more important than all of the physical attributes and even the accuracy.
Posted by crawlin king snake
in the weeds
Member since Jul 2015
333 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:58 am to
Nice work. He seems to have a good sense of pressure and moves well. He also moves into a better throwing position to get a better angle on the pass.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52674 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:00 pm to
Seemed like he stares down one receiver every time.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

best QB we've had from a mental standpoint in a long time


Biggest thing in my opinion. And look, a crossing route on the last clip! Would be nice to see him allowed to do that when his time comes to take the position.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Seemed like he stares down one receiver every time.

he literally does the exact opposite of that in every single .gif i posted on here. in all 5.

in the first one there are 3 WRs on the right so thats why you dont see him look around

in the second one his first read is the WR on the far hash mark

in the third one he looks right, then center, then left before running

in the fourth one he starts left, throws right

in the fifth one his first read is to the left hash, he throws to the center of the field
Posted by jondavid11
benton,la
Member since Aug 2007
1152 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:15 pm to
I'm excited for him to be a tiger. I really am. The first clip though looked like the curl route was wide open and he didn't throw on time but rolled out and forced it into coverage. That's why I hope fans give him a couple of years to learn our system and be coached instead of him being forced to play too soon.
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
California
Member since Nov 2015
1215 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Seemed like he stares down one receiver every time.


Clown. Why do they even allow you on this board? Go play on the Rant.
Posted by ReverendJeffro
Mandeville,LA
Member since Dec 2013
949 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:17 pm to
Wow bro....how much time do you have on your hands. Hahahah awesome post.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7335 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:18 pm to
Don't hurt me but in those few highlights I see Johnny Manziel...
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

The first clip though looked like the curl route was wide open and he didn't throw on time

yeah i saw that as well, but we do lose sight of the DB that went with him, its possible he was just out of frame and Scott thought he could jump it.

or, frick, yeah, maybe he just made a mistake. hard to say.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:26 pm to
I like him and I know Les prefers quarterbacks that are mobile. He is an intelligent kid and I think he will excel in this area too.

He is a great addition in a much needed area.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28465 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

That's why I hope fans give him a couple of years to learn our system


If LSU tries to stick him in "their system" he'll never succeed. This guy isn't Zack Mettenberger. Don't try to make him Zack Mettenberger

If LSU is willing to spread the field a bit more, give him some throwing lanes and/or get him out of the pocket a bit, he could really succeed. If LSU has him take the majority of snaps from under-center and primarily throw passes from traditonal 3, 5, 7 step drops, he'll be just another "what could have been" QB at LSU.
Posted by crawlin king snake
in the weeds
Member since Jul 2015
333 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:30 pm to
On that curl, I it looks as if the Db is just out of the frame waiting to jump the receiver.
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
823 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:33 pm to
Great post. I don't know if he'd win a Heisman if he went to Oregon but I know this, the kid can flat out play. If, and this is a big if, if Cameron crafted an offensive scheme based on his talents I think Scott could at least be an above average QB in the SEC. And most years that's all we need, an average/above average QB who can keep the chains moving and keep defenses honest.

Above all else though we need a consistent QB. Harris has shown that he can play at an above average level at times. I'm hoping that he can improve his play and become more consistent and reliable.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:35 pm to
Great post and I'm as excited about this kid as I've been in a long time. They finally did it.
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