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re: article: "wrong ingredients for the recipe"
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:53 am to cgrand
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:53 am to cgrand
I think Gentry may be more Norv Turner than anything else.
I agree to a certain extent, but a couple of caveats.
D'Antoni made Chris Duhon, Raymond Felton, and Kendall Marshall look good. And in PHX, it wasn't wholesale changes, but rather tweaking an already powerful system.
As for GS, Curry is clearly sui generis in a way that even Davis isn't. Same time, they were 10th and 12th in offense the two years before Kerr/Gentry. What is unique about GS is, obviously, the shooting, but just as impressive is the passing. They have some of the best passers in the league at 4 different positions (Curry, Iguodala, Green, Bogut). Thompson, Barnes, and Livingston (and Lee when he was there) are at least willing and capable too. Their versatility isn't just about switching on defense.
The Pels were never going to be able to run a system like that. I had questions about what exactly they would look like specifically because of the passing on this team. I thought they would figure something else out (whoops), but I never thought it would be as flowing as the Warriors.
Again, it goes back to the fundamental question many had when they first added Holiday and Evans 3 years ago: how do you fit 3 ball dominant guards together?
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it's oversimplified but it is very hard to argue that his system relies heavily/exclusively on Nash and curry type ballhandlers
I agree to a certain extent, but a couple of caveats.
D'Antoni made Chris Duhon, Raymond Felton, and Kendall Marshall look good. And in PHX, it wasn't wholesale changes, but rather tweaking an already powerful system.
As for GS, Curry is clearly sui generis in a way that even Davis isn't. Same time, they were 10th and 12th in offense the two years before Kerr/Gentry. What is unique about GS is, obviously, the shooting, but just as impressive is the passing. They have some of the best passers in the league at 4 different positions (Curry, Iguodala, Green, Bogut). Thompson, Barnes, and Livingston (and Lee when he was there) are at least willing and capable too. Their versatility isn't just about switching on defense.
The Pels were never going to be able to run a system like that. I had questions about what exactly they would look like specifically because of the passing on this team. I thought they would figure something else out (whoops), but I never thought it would be as flowing as the Warriors.
Again, it goes back to the fundamental question many had when they first added Holiday and Evans 3 years ago: how do you fit 3 ball dominant guards together?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:16 am to corndeaux
yes you are right it's the passing but also nobody on this team can seem to do the give it up/get it back motion nor set a decent pick. Asik only occasionally can get the defender off the ballhandler but he's useless as a roll man
so the ballhandler just dribbles around and can't run a defender off him because nobody else is looking to run a set other than drive and kick or dump it in. It's terrible basketball
as for the defense it just looks like a lack of communication and piss poor effort to me
so the ballhandler just dribbles around and can't run a defender off him because nobody else is looking to run a set other than drive and kick or dump it in. It's terrible basketball
as for the defense it just looks like a lack of communication and piss poor effort to me
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 10:28 am
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