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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision

Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11876 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Money coming in goes up, spending goes up. There aren't any actual overall cuts to the budget at LSU. They get less money from the state, they double the amount coming in from students.

Where are the cuts in those numbers? Not searching for the actual budget on my phone, but if there were cuts, why are they spending more?


You don't understand how social entitlement math works? You don't start with last year. Start with 100% of all capital available. Anything they don't get is a cut.

And I am reporting you for a micro aggression

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:13 pm to
I fail to understand why, if there are such huge budget cuts, LSU is spending more. It obviously isn't an issue.

Less money from the state, tuition is raised to make up more than enough of that reduction from the state, enrollment actually INCREASES with the tuition increases. That is just from 2011 to 2014
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13984 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:13 pm to
Putting athletics aside, I don't want this politicking a-hole in charge of any facet of my alma mater. frick him.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47809 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:15 pm to
So in short he's saying they used the Rant to come to a decision
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:16 pm to
So King killed the deal because Louisiana politicians and the general public are ignorant to financing a coach's salary?

This story just keeps getting worse or better, depending how you look at it.



Doesn't pull trigger on coach.


Blames everyone else for ignorance.



This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

I fail to understand why, if there are such huge budget cuts, LSU is spending more. It obviously isn't an issue.


Well, one would assume that most of the budget is going to salaries for employees.

That's what you would have to cut.

And they could do so, but it wouldn't be without consequence as faculty can leave and go to other schools that pay more or will give them a raise.

LSU isn't competing in a vacuum. On the football field or otherwise, we have to compete with other schools.

Cut shite enough and LSU will be back to where it was in the 80s as a school.

Here's an article on LSU salaries. It's from a couple of years ago but it shows that you have 12,192 employees making a total of $710 million.

LINK
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

So King killed the deal because Louisiana politicians and the general public are ignorant to financing a coach's salary?


Yeah, well don't forget Jimbo also said no or at least that's what was being reported Saturday morning prior to the game.

That may have had a teeny bit to do with it.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Putting athletics aside, I don't want this politicking a-hole in charge of any facet of my alma mater. frick him.


Yeah, well, I'd actually like a chancellor who can get the state to properly fund the university.

That's his number one job.

His number one job isn't to run off a coach who lost 3 games this year so we can go hire who knows to replace him at a cost of tens of millions more.

Now, the AD could have said "Here's the political reality. Me and TAF have Jimbo locked down tight. It's going to happen. So get on board or my friends in TAF will take you down with Miles."

Clearly that didn't happen. Probably because Jimbo was far from locked down. And TAF superpowers may be greatly exaggerated.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11876 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:26 pm to
fascinating discussion about vacuums and the 80's, but please answer his question.

You claimed they cut the shite out of the school but spending went up every year.

Clearly net spending growth - not a cut.

Nice pivot to explain why they need to spend more but crawfish back to the cut the shite out of argument and explain
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12579 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:28 pm to
Why is OK for the state taxpayers to be forced to pay the richest man in Louisiana, Tom Benson, $400 million just to keep his team in NOLA?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:30 pm to
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And LSU > Miles....dont ever forget this you silly putz.
" Les > Les haters" was LSU talking. Nice tshirt.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28352 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:31 pm to
If this is going to go the route of a political conversation, the first thing any governor does is shite down suno(why keep this idiot warehouse open?)and merge some of these directional schools. Very low hanging fruit in regards to saving, but costly in the political patronage it would cut out.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

You claimed they cut the shite out of the school but spending went up every year.


They have closed/consolidated 60 programs, per LSU.

I'm not an expert in LSU's budget but I would imagine the small increases in the total budget year over year are largely due to salaries for existing faculty. They have done hiring freezes but I don't know if they've done salary freezes. And if they did, there would be consequences to that in terms of retention and quality of faculty who decide to stay (as played out in the past).

At any rate, it appears the pendulum is swinging back now. John Bel will restore some funding next year.

But we'll be right back here again. History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:39 pm to
The Reveille has a nice chart of what departments have had pay hikes since 2010 (all of them):

LINK
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:48 pm to
have any of the boosters who donate a ton of money monthly to the university openly said they are not donating a single penny until King is gone?

I also would imagine that some of the big athletic boosters also donate to the university. I'm wondering how this news is sitting with them and if they will stop donating to the academic side.
Posted by Brisket
Over dere
Member since Dec 2009
933 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:50 pm to
This is the bottom line .... LSU stupidly extended Miles contract for way too many years with idiotic buyout terms.

LSU got married to Miles when the ink dried on the contract. You see now that they can't get out of it. Welcome to the new era of non-relevance.

The Everly Bros. said it best:
Bye bye love
Bye bye happiness
Hello loneliness
I think I'm-a gonna cry-y
Bye bye love
Bye bye sweet caress
Hello emptiness
I feel like I could die
Bye bye my love goodbye
Posted by Retlaw
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2013
1253 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 pm to
In the business world you have the "war room" where you huddle and lay out your plan to execute. Everyone involved understands the objective, tactics, negotiable points, communications piece of it, etc.

Clearly, this group of academic stooges went into this with no such planning. They had no communications strategy to follow through on and F King wasn't committed to the plan as loosely executed. If that is the case, they should have never started this fiasco and embarrass the university, our coach and themselves.

If you were going to fire the man, then you should have fired the man. To let him twist in the wind and then decide to keep him was completely avoidable from the standpoint of negatively impacting the schools reputation.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158781 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

If this is going to go the route of a political conversation, the first thing any governor does is shite down suno(why keep this idiot warehouse open?)and merge some of these directional schools. Very low hanging fruit in regards to saving, but costly in the political patronage it would cut out.



Last time they were on the chopping block, I remember their president defending their horrendous graduation rate by claiming graduating students was not their job
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:58 pm to
Just great.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:58 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28352 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:05 pm to
Excellent post!
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