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I agree with Moscona last night.

Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:54 am
Posted by pkf4lsu
League City, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
4196 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:54 am
On 870 with the TBob show, he said that he felt Alleva before the last 2 games sent a message to the agents stating that Les could very well be coaching for his job the last 2 games and that the outcome was irrelevant of the 2.

My personal feeling with all of this. I think a plan was in place to replace Miles after Chavis left. What threw me was the Kevin Steele hiring.

I don't care what anyone says on here, Alleva and the higher ups are going to do what is best for the University and as a Tiger fan since 1970, we need to support that University with its decision and accept it whatever the outcome may be.

As for Les. If he is gone. So be it. I've enjoyed the ride, the quirkiness attitude, the fire(hasn't been there lately), the passion(hasn't been there lately), but most of all your commitment to coaching these kids. He has always been a players coach and does things HIS way. Well guess what. YOUR WAY isn't working cause I am sick and tired of having THAT game or THAT call or THAT penalty or THAT stubbornness in your play calling and NO adjustments I mean NONE. And it's been going on for a LONG LONG time. I won't even say what I want to say about the NC game vs BAMA other than YOU PLAY FOR A PRIZE and YOU WERE FRICKING being labeled as quite possibly THE BEST college football team ever and that's how you go out THAT year. Nicely done and wonderful adjusting and trying to alter things up.

Simply put. Les you are not THAT guy anymore. Moving on.

Forever LSU and GEAUX TIGERS.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 7:06 am
Posted by nicksaur3
Madisonville, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2015
1261 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:02 am to
Agreed
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
17008 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:06 am to
I agree with the sentiment.

College football is a big business. Joe Alleva wants to wring every last dollar out of your wallet he can.

The pumpers are crying about: "treat Les with dignity and respect!" as if anyone is going to go egg his house.

Bottom line: while we're thankful for 11 years of a lot of good memories, Les isn't getting it done anymore. He is no longer a successful coach in the SEC.

It's time to move on.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38329 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:10 am to
Thanks for getting that out.

I think what your therapist meant was journaling and to NOT "send" the message. Normally that's a medically good way of dealing with your feelings. But either way; way to express yourself.

We all know it's time to move on from Miles; but why are you trying to continuously hold this man over the fire?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:19 am to
quote:

I think a plan was in place to replace Miles after Chavis left.


A plan was in place before Chavis left, which is why he wanted a bigger buyout and why Aleva said no. It wasn't a matter of if, only when.

When Miles bent Aleva over backwards in 2012 after "flirting" with Arkansas after the shite show against Bama in the Dome, it began his unraveling.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4781 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:38 am to
finally someone who is honest been saying that for years les is a dinosaur stubborn hard headed even ruffin rodrigue said it best i have never seen a more stubborn man in all my life
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16342 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:46 am to
I hope there is a very good coach for this program that has the chest to take over a program that fires it's coach with the best winning percentage of any other coach had at this university.



My comment above is not to undermine a new hire. It just points out the ironic way things work when you are all over the map in the last 11 years of an up and down coaching career.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18461 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:46 am to
Agree
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17855 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:49 am to
quote:

Moscano


His name is Moscona, FYI.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9948 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:02 am to
#AllevaGottaGeaux
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:48 am to
Have an upvote. You understand the situation and when it's time to cut ties and move on.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10539 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:50 am to
quote:

What threw me was the Kevin Steele hiring.


Steele will remain on the new coach's staff
Posted by Number2
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2260 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:55 am to
Well said
Posted by LSUPat
Katy
Member since Oct 2004
307 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:20 am to
Les Miles reminds me of coaches like Tom Landry and Chuck Knoll. They were both icons of their teams. Les has won a lot of games but the game has passed him by. When Jimmy Johnson came in, the team had to be completely re-built to modern football. That is not the case with LSU. There are tons of talented offensive player that are not being utilized correctly. We cannot continue to run a 1970's era football and expect to compete for a national championship.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:26 am to
Mosscoma is full of shite. Alleva planned to rid LSU of CLM when he invented the "Miles clause" and put into the asst. coaches contracts. it's just now come to the point where he wants to enact the plan.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30708 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:43 am to
when your agent plays games like his did with the arkansas job... to get a raise and ext....


that chicken can soon come home to roost and shite on your head
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17750 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:44 am to
I am glad to know that, I couldn't sleep at all last night until i knew what pkf4lsu thought about the show last night...
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:45 am to
quote:

He has always been a players coach and does things HIS way. Well guess what. YOUR WAY isn't working cause I am sick and tired of having THAT game or THAT call or THAT penalty or THAT stubbornness in your play calling and NO adjustments I mean NONE. And it's been going on for a LONG LONG time. I won't even say what I want to say about the NC game vs BAMA other than YOU PLAY FOR A PRIZE and YOU WERE FRICKING being labeled as quite possibly THE BEST college football team ever and that's how you go out THAT year. Nicely done and wonderful adjusting and trying to alter things up.

Simply put. Les you are not THAT guy anymore. Moving on.


All the individuals agreeing with you and your comments you can all kiss my arse! We owe Les a hell of a lot more than what some of the "so-caled" fans and media and university higher ups are showing Miles.

I have not always agreed with some of what Miles has done and there are aspects of his personality "stubbornness" that I wish he would change. But make no mistake about it, Les Miles is good for LSU and he is a good coach and this is going to hurt LSU in the short term. How much is obviously remains to be seen at this point, but it is going to hurt LSU going forward there is no question about that.

You see all you idiots that want him fired "looks like you got your wish" what you don't seem to understand is this is a two part equation "firing miles and then hiring a successor." Just look at the way LSU Admins "Alleva" has handled this situation and you really expect Alleva to get it right on hiring the successor? You guys need to put down the crack pipe because I have no faith at all. With all the quality coaching jobs open this year, this seriously is a recipe for disaster. And if the right coach is not hired "and you guys need to put down the heroine needles if you think Fisher is coming here, Sexton is licking his chops because he knows he is about to get his client a HUGE raise at FSU. Fisher is not leaving a program that is clicking on all cylinders and 2 years off a Naty, it ain't happening. So if we don't hire the right guy we are stuck another 3-4years for that guy to fail and by that time we will be an also-ran in the SEC west.

This was not thought out well and executed even more poorly than it was thought out, this is going to be a shite-show and our ring leader is Alleva - we are fricked!
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