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re: Something easily overlooked that's important: Joe Alleva knows football.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:37 pm to tigerbait2010
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:37 pm to tigerbait2010
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or what we've done for Les miles, he should have never done that to the AD and fans.
Why not? If you had the opportunity to get more money at your job you wouldn't jump at it?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:38 pm to tigerbait2010
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Also it's encouraging he made Duke's best football hire since Spurrier in the 80's
seriously? you do realize that he hired 2 duds before cut, right?
carl franks and ted roof appreciate the opportunity that alleva gave them i'm sure
1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess??
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:39 pm to Chad504boy
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HIs hiring of David Cutcliffe earns him an opportunity to make a higher for LSU
Cutcliffe may have been a great hire, but it was his third attempt...
Carl Franks and Ted Roof were Alleva's first and second Head football coaches hired at Duke..By the way, they went 7-45 and 6-45 respectively.
Let's hope it doesn't take him 3 tries to get it right at LSU.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:40 pm to Pintail
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Why not? If you had the opportunity to get more money at your job you wouldn't jump at it?
Oh, so you think Les Miles shouldn't have scoffed at an offer from his friend Jeff Long from THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS?
Okay, if USC or Texas came calling, sure. The fact you find nothing wrong with Les Miles entertaining an offer from an inferior division rival is insanity.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:42 pm to Martini
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He is an adult who has given his best to this university and to this community and if you are in the market to replace him than he should not be hanging out to dry like he is
It comes with the territory when you are making $4mil+ a year and not getting the job done. How delusional are you?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:43 pm to Coater
Okay, so Duke has had 3 respectable coaches in its 100+ years of football,a nd you're butthurt he didn't hit a grand slam on his first try?
let's take a look at how Duke had its best 10-year run in school history under him:
On top of solid hires he's made here, he seems more than capable of finding good coaches.
let's take a look at how Duke had its best 10-year run in school history under him:
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Duke athletics has flourished under Alleva’s direction. The Blue Devils finished fifth in the 2005 Division I Directors’ Cup, which rates athletics departments based on the success of its teams. Duke followed up its impressive 2005 performance with an eighth-place finish in 2006 and an 11th-place showing in 2007. Prior to 1998-99, Alleva’s first full year as director of athletics, Duke had never placed higher than 21st in the Directors’ Cup standings. Since then, Duke has enjoyed six top 20 finishes, including four in succession (2004-07).
In the 2006 National Collegiate Scouting Association Power Rankings that combine a school’s Directors’ Cup finish, its athletic graduation rates and its academic ranking in U.S. News and World Report, Duke was the top-ranked Division I school in the nation, ahead of Stanford, Notre Dame, Princeton and Harvard. Duke also finished first in this listing in 2005 and second in 2004.
Here is a look at some of the key athletic accomplishments by Duke under Alleva’s guidance:
Six NCAA National Championships (Duke has nine overall)
19 Final Four participants
44 ACC Championship teams
Eight Top 25 Directors’ Cup finishes (three top 10 finishes)
71 Academic All-America selections
147 All-Americas (250 honors)
251 All-ACC selections (400 honors)
12 National Player of the Year selections (17 honors)
6 National Rookie of the Year selections
16 National Coach of the Year selections
32 ACC Rookie of the Year selections
34 ACC Coach of the Year awards
24 ACC Player of the Year selections (33 honors)
On top of solid hires he's made here, he seems more than capable of finding good coaches.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:44 pm to tigerbait2010
So if your company's competitor came to you and said we will offer you your salary+x you would just scoff at them and say no can do. This is still a business and the man has to make money.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:46 pm to tigerbait2010
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Okay, so Duke has had 3 respectable coaches in its 100+ years of football,a nd you're butthurt he didn't hit a grand slam on his first try?
i'm just saying let's not gloss over the fact that he has made less than stellar football coaching selections.
and your list of accomplishments is mostly about basketball. I thought this post was regarding his football knowledge.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:46 pm to tigerbait2010
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The fact you find nothing wrong with Les Miles entertaining an offer from an inferior division rival is insanity.
Yeah, because God knows, if your employers "lesser" competitor came offering to lure you away by bumping your salary a couple hundred thousand, or maybe a million....YOU WOULD HAVE NO INTEREST in listening to what they have to say! RIGHT???
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:47 pm to Pintail
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So if your company's competitor came to you and said we will offer you your salary+x you would just scoff at them and say no can do. This is still a business and the man has to make money.
Arkansas has money, decent tradition, and amazing facilities, but they are not in the same league of potential as LSU.
Had Florida State, USC, Texas, etc offered then sure pony up. Arkansas is a completely different story and should have never been entertained with how we've always lined his pockets. At least when Texas offered Saban it was substantially more money from an equal program.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:48 pm to tigerbait2010
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MBA from Lehigh
Les has a Masters degree in Finance from The University of Michigan. So what?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:49 pm to Coater
It is about football. Still I think it's fair to note his ability to hire coaches in sports where Duke actually has a high ceiling in.
The fact he went 1/3 at a school like Duke shows me he can get the job done replacing Les.
The fact he went 1/3 at a school like Duke shows me he can get the job done replacing Les.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:49 pm to tigerbait2010
The deal with the AD and the BOS is too many people have information on what's going on so its just inevitably that things are going to get leaked and the rumors will run rampant and no one will spin it to make their particular group or person look bad. IMO Not to mention the media...
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:50 pm to beachdude
He only has a bachelors in economics from Michigan, and I would say Lehigh football players are far more true student-athletes than michigan football players.
And I'm not implying Les is an idiot, but nothing about him having a masters in finance is true anyways
And I'm not implying Les is an idiot, but nothing about him having a masters in finance is true anyways
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:51 pm to tigerbait2010
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The fact he went 1/3 at a school like Duke shows me he can get the job done replacing Les.
I'm hoping you're right...I really really am! I just don't see how the facts support that argument.
But hey, we'll see....
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:53 pm to Moots
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Yeah, because God knows, if your employers "lesser" competitor came offering to lure you away by bumping your salary a couple hundred thousand, or maybe a million....YOU WOULD HAVE NO INTEREST in listening to what they have to say! RIGHT??
It would be one thing if Jeff Long and Miles were neutral parties offering a deal. But when it went down it was well known that the two are at minimum acquaintances.
You could easily play devil's advocate and say Long was locking les in at LSU to hurt the program
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:54 pm to tigerbait2010
This is fact. He lost his grace period with that one . Bad business move and this is a business
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:54 pm to tigerbait2010
That still doesn't answer the question. What did miles do wrong in that situation that no hard working person would do?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:58 pm to Pintail
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That still doesn't answer the question. What did miles do wrong in that situation that no hard working person would do?
I didn't say he did anything "wrong", but LSU sure as hell didn't owe him a re-negotiated contract after a weak showing against Clemson. If were even coming off the 2011 season I could justify it, but I think it's okay to think Les miles shouldn't have ever entertained this "offer"-especially when he was visibly butt hurt when John Chavis walked out on him
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