Few people are torrenting all day at 1gig, and only the more popular torrents are going to get enough peers to saturate that pipe but yeah if you are really into software and movie theft then you will notice the difference with 1gig.

Another use case is if you're synchronizing lots of data backups from your home to the cloud. You will notice a difference with 1gig depending on how much new data you have to backup. (think movies and pics)

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Or, maybe you've cut the cord and your family of 5 are all streaming video at prime time and you don't want heavy browsing or downloading to cause buffering (nor do you want the streaming to impact your browsing).

You can easily do all this with a 100meg connection. Theoretically you should be able to do this with a 50meg connection, but YMMV.

A lot of people don't realize that it only takes around 6.7mbps bandwidth to stream HD video from Netflix. 4k can be accomplished with 25mbps. I think the point is that few people would notice the difference between a 200mbps connection and a 1gbps connection.

In 5 years we will definitely be tapping into that bandwidth though so I hope everyone gets fiber. As far as 10gig goes for residential use? It'll be a while.

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Posted by Korkstand

Member since Nov 2003

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Posted on 11/14/15 at 2:36 pm to Asgard Device

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but yeah if you are really into software and movie theft then you will notice the difference with 1gig.

Why do people have to act like only "thieves" would use gigabit? I torrent multi-gig legal files all the time.

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Another use case is if you're synchronizing lots of data backups from your home to the cloud. You will notice a difference with 1gig depending on how much new data you have to backup. (think movies and pics)

I'm not sure this is true. I think most cloud services limit your upload speed so as not to saturate their pipes.

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You can easily do all this with a 100meg connection. Theoretically you should be able to do this with a 50meg connection, but YMMV.

There are a whole lot of "theoreticals" when it comes to home broadband. First, you can only really count on getting about 75% of what you pay for, maybe 50% at peak times.

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A lot of people don't realize that it only takes around 6.7mbps bandwidth to stream HD video from Netflix

I do, and I also know that it doesn't take much browsing to impact streaming throughout, especially when multiple people are streaming.

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4k can be accomplished with 25mbps.

Uh huh. A couple streams doesn't leave much room for anything else, does it? Unless you have gigabit.

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I think the point is that few people would notice the difference between a 200mbps connection and a 1gbps connection.

It's not noticeable the vast majority of the time. But the times it is noticeable will likely mean a drop in video quality, or you may have to work around what others in your home are doing. It's a first world problem for sure, but it's a solvable one, and one that we should be solving more quickly than we are.

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In 5 years we will definitely be tapping into that bandwidth though so I hope everyone gets fiber. As far as 10gig goes for residential use? It'll be a while.

The thing about the timetable on this is that it depends on the supply of gig and 10gig+ service. Our usage will always swell to fill the available bandwidth. It's like income and budgeting. It's in our nature to spend almost everything we make.

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Posted by ILikeLSUToo

Central, LA

Member since Jan 2008

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Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:24 pm to Asgard Device

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A lot of people don't realize that it only takes around 6.7mbps bandwidth to stream HD video from Netflix. 4k can be accomplished with 25mbps.

And it seems a lot of people don't realize that those bit rates are the result of highly compressed streams, which are the result of the average household having relatively low bandwidth. Surely, we want to eventually (if not very soon) see our fancy new 4K TVs (or hell, even our 1080p TVs) truly shine with high-bitrate, low-artifact streaming media, rather than cling onto physical media as our only way to get the highest fidelity (compressed 4K streams really aren't distinguishable from 1080p blu-ray). Personally, I want a reason to buy a big-arse 4K TV on which I won't spend 80-90% of my time watching 720p/1080i broadcast or even a compressed netflix stream.

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In 5 years we will definitely be tapping into that bandwidth though so I hope everyone gets fiber. As far as 10gig goes for residential use? It'll be a while.

Yep, but personally I don't see why it shouldn't be sooner than that. As Kork said, when we get it, we will be damn sure to find ways to use it. The possibilities already exist; it's just that the benefits can't realized without the infrastructure, which can't exist without demand. And I agree about 10gig being ahead of its time in consumer space, since even the top consumer routers can't quite deliver 1gbps WAN to LAN, but we don't want to discourage its existence and fall into the trap of complacency of "adequate" bandwidth for what we do now... Unless we're OK with the way most of the big ISPs are treating us now.

We want the idea of an uncapped internet faucet to be move from novelty status to something more commonplace. The key here is bandwidth, not speed. IoT is the future. I'm actually lagging behind in that regard. Ask CAD how many internet-connected devices are in his house.