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Will St. Augustine grass plugs overtake Bermuda?
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:01 am
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:01 am
New construction home, we planted Bermuda seeds in our muddy yard just to get some grass going asap. It took very well; however, we would love to have a st Augustine yard.
I have since planted several St Augustine plugs into the yard about 6 feet apart in the hopes that it'll eventually overtake the entire yard.
Anyone have experience with this?
I have since planted several St Augustine plugs into the yard about 6 feet apart in the hopes that it'll eventually overtake the entire yard.
Anyone have experience with this?
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:04 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
No clue on an answer to your question, but just curious: what's your preference to St. Aug over Bermuda?
I ask because after killing the nut sedge in my back yard I have both taking over. The Bermuda is spreading and I kind of like it.
I ask because after killing the nut sedge in my back yard I have both taking over. The Bermuda is spreading and I kind of like it.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:08 am to CoachChappy
I just always liked st aug grass.
The Bermuda tends to die real easy when it isn't watered and their is a period of no rain. We had several sections go brown this summer
The Bermuda tends to die real easy when it isn't watered and their is a period of no rain. We had several sections go brown this summer
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:20 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
Ah, got you. Well, now I am interested in the answer. Also, if anyone knows how to kill off Bermuda and keep the st. Aug, advice would be appreciated.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:26 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
Yep, it will take approximately forever in my experience. Water very well. In cutting season, cut very high. Fertilize well also/
Posted on 11/7/15 at 6:29 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
It will if you-
Keep it watered
Don't allow Bermuda to seed head
Don't cut St Aug to short
Cut it a couple times a week in peak growing season
Transplant some St Aug to the heavy Bermuda areas
Keep it watered
Don't allow Bermuda to seed head
Don't cut St Aug to short
Cut it a couple times a week in peak growing season
Transplant some St Aug to the heavy Bermuda areas
Posted on 11/7/15 at 7:25 am to Voorhies7
You will always have a mix. U can never truly get rid of bermuda without killing st Aug
Posted on 11/7/15 at 7:43 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
Bermuda will drown out the st augustine, you need to kill it. There is a spray, but I can't remember the name off hand, that will kill only Bermuda grass. I have a large patch of Bermuda in my yard that I Ned to spray, but the guy at Plant Tech told me to wait until spring to spray.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 8:23 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
Just watch it to make sure the bermuda doesn't get too thick around the St.Aug and allow the St Aug to grow tall as it wants and seed itself and make runners,do not cut it. This time of the year i would not worry too much, it will get cold soon and the Bermuda will die back, and u need the bermuda there now to hold the soil in place.This spring i would buy some sod, it will take much better,don't go the cheap route it will just piss you off in the end
Posted on 11/7/15 at 8:42 am to FISH N TIGER
I have a mix in my yard and like it, we are in North Texas though. They both burn up out here due to watering restrictions in the summer.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 8:54 am to Bucktail1
quote:
Bermuda will drown out the st augustine, you need to kill it.
That is a false statement. Keep it watered and don't cut it real short and the st aug will take over
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:06 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
It is not that expensive to buy the sod and lay it yourself. Maybe a grand depending on the size of yard.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 2:08 pm to AUCE05
Yes it will. I had an area I did some construction in about 6 years ago and planted Bermuda to get something growing. The st wig took a few years to fully cover it and eventually took over. There was no evidence of Bermuda. Last winter I did another project and it caused that area to get muddy again. I was just going to let it do its thing but Bermuda from 6 years ago came through.
Posted on 11/7/15 at 3:54 pm to Antpile Tea Bagger
A lot of factors come into play.
Which variety of each grass type?
How much sun/shade.
How much moisture does your yard get?
What is the soil type?
How tall do you allow the grass to grow before mowing?
etc, etc...
I have patches of centipede, st aug and Bermuda in my yard. Would prefer the centipede but following years of attempts to engineer the turf I've decided to step back and allow each variety to occupy the spaces it likes.
Which variety of each grass type?
How much sun/shade.
How much moisture does your yard get?
What is the soil type?
How tall do you allow the grass to grow before mowing?
etc, etc...
I have patches of centipede, st aug and Bermuda in my yard. Would prefer the centipede but following years of attempts to engineer the turf I've decided to step back and allow each variety to occupy the spaces it likes.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:18 am to Easternrio
quote:
You will always have a mix.
This. I had Bermuda which wasn't doing well because of poor soil and too much shade. So I used Roundup in the Bermuda twice, put down 2 inches of topsoil, and St. Augustine sod. The facking Bermuda came back from the dead and about half my lawn is a Bermuda/St. Augustine mix. The shadiest half is purely St. Augustine, the rest is about 75% St. Augustine but there is no getting rid of the Bermuda. It's been like this for 7 years.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:10 pm to Tigris
Had to chime in - Ive been a golf course supt for almost ten years. Since my Aggies sucked this weekend I might as well talk about something...Don't know everything but here is a couple of facts:
- no spray will kill only bermuda in a st.augustine mix.
- "plugging" any grass at six foot intervals will take forever to spread even if the plugged grass is somewhat better suited
- bermudagrass is extremely difficult to completely remove. The best herbicide combination that I have seen is repeated applications of roundup combined with fusillade sprayed at the appropriate rates, intervals, and time of year. Even after all this bermuda can either come back or be tracked back in. Soil sterilants and fumigants are more effective, but difficult, expensive, and many times unavailable to apply. Both of the above are non selective and will kill everything in the application area. See this article from some other SEC schools for more info
LINK
-in my opinion the only way you will not have a mix is if the area has a ton of shade. St.augustine does much better in the shade and thus will be the more aggressive plant in that situation. Too much shade and neither will grow.
- watering and higher mowing height will favor st. Augustine in most situations. Too much water in spring and fall and st Augustine more susceptible to disease such as brown patch.
- drier conditions and lower mowing height will favor the bermuda in most situations.
I have mix in my un-irrigated yard. With all the droughts bermuda has taken over in a lot of spots. I like bermuda better as it is more tolerant of herbicides, has better drought hardiness, and is more disease resistant in my climate.
Just my two cents.....
- no spray will kill only bermuda in a st.augustine mix.
- "plugging" any grass at six foot intervals will take forever to spread even if the plugged grass is somewhat better suited
- bermudagrass is extremely difficult to completely remove. The best herbicide combination that I have seen is repeated applications of roundup combined with fusillade sprayed at the appropriate rates, intervals, and time of year. Even after all this bermuda can either come back or be tracked back in. Soil sterilants and fumigants are more effective, but difficult, expensive, and many times unavailable to apply. Both of the above are non selective and will kill everything in the application area. See this article from some other SEC schools for more info
LINK
-in my opinion the only way you will not have a mix is if the area has a ton of shade. St.augustine does much better in the shade and thus will be the more aggressive plant in that situation. Too much shade and neither will grow.
- watering and higher mowing height will favor st. Augustine in most situations. Too much water in spring and fall and st Augustine more susceptible to disease such as brown patch.
- drier conditions and lower mowing height will favor the bermuda in most situations.
I have mix in my un-irrigated yard. With all the droughts bermuda has taken over in a lot of spots. I like bermuda better as it is more tolerant of herbicides, has better drought hardiness, and is more disease resistant in my climate.
Just my two cents.....
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:59 pm to texag06
Thanks for everyone's help.
So this is a picture of how the side of the house and most of the front yard looks.
(We played fist sized plugs of st aug when we first planted the Bermuda this summer and it seems like these are spreading)
So this is a picture of how the side of the house and most of the front yard looks.
(We played fist sized plugs of st aug when we first planted the Bermuda this summer and it seems like these are spreading)
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:06 pm to Antpile Tea Bagger
Here's the front yard. Bermuda kinda turning brown when I cut it shorter.
(I let it get too long now I have bails of hay )
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:07 pm to Antpile Tea Bagger
Your's is going, but it takes a while. My yard looks very similar and I put 32 pieces of sod checkered in it 2 springs ago.
The other route is just to kill it all, till it and lay a carpet of st. aug sod.
The other route is just to kill it all, till it and lay a carpet of st. aug sod.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:51 am to Clyde Tipton
Considering I only put fist sized plugs staggered, it seems to be spreading well.
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