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re: TBW with a solid write up offensive struggles so far

Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:22 am to
Gentry is going to have to change up his offensive philosophy some to maximize AD's talent. Gentry's system has excelled when he has MVP-level PGs moving the ball around and raining 3s. We don't have that guy, so he'll need to adjust. Just looking at Golden State from last year, they didn't run anything that would seem to fit AD's method of work. They were either setting up Bogut on the block or setting up Green at the top of the key.

It wouldn't hurt for him to adopt some of the sets that Monty ran. Monty's pick and roll schemes did a good job of forcing help at the basket against the driving guards, which gave AD space to work in the 12-15 foot range. That could definitely help out in late game situations with a lead where you aren't in "maximize possessions" mode.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:23 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:27 am to
I'd like to see his system with AD when Tyreke, Cole, and Jrue are playing full minutes. Then I'll comment.

For now, though, with those guys out, it probably needs to be adjusted to more pick and roll.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:49 am to
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They were either setting up Bogut on the block or setting up Green at the top of the key.


In the first game there was some interesting 2 man game happening with Cunningham and Perkins, basically a side P&R. That seems like something that would work well with AD and Tyreke. If the defense follows Tyreke, AD/Ryno can be ready for a corner 3 in about 2 steps. You also are getting a big out of the paint.

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It wouldn't hurt for him to adopt some of the sets that Monty ran.


The only consistent thing they've said about philosophy of the system is playing with pace and looking for the first open shot. There's no reason some of Monty's plays can't be run in a 7 seconds or less setting. You probably won't see slow developing plays, but the P&Rs would work.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:55 am to
Need more PnR when Ish is out there...hopefully he is up to the task.

ETA: Running more PnR gets AD closer to the basket for rebounds...which have been lacking...
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Gentry is going to have to change up his offensive philosophy some to maximize AD's talent


That is just not true. Amare Stoudemire was a force of nature in PHX when he wasn't hurt. He put up 23/9 on 56% from the field (15 FGA/G) and 8 FTA/G in Gentry's lone season as head coach. Go back and watch the Gentry Suns Playbook on YouTube. Plenty of action for bigs. It's uninformed to say his system can't accommodate a dominant, athletic big with ball and shooting skills.

Can Gentry do everything he did in PHX with Nash? Of course not. He cant do what he did in GS either because theres no Steph and the Warriors have several superior passers. But he won't be running Monty sets. He believes in floor space and ball movement. High PnR is not a Monty set. Everyone in the league runs it, it's how you get there and what you do out of it.

And I'll say this, ball screens don't work when defenses don't give a damn about the ball handler. I'll ignore Ish Smith and Toney Douglas all night and stick to Davis. When Evans and Holiday come back, defenses will have to change.
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