re: Do any of you guys use a deer management program?

Yeah, but an overpopulation of does makes it easy for the big boys to mate. He doesn't have to travel as much exposing himself to be shot. At least that's a theory.

And in regards to culling. You shouldn't kill a 1 1/2 year old spike. But you should probadly take the 4 1/2 year old cow horn spike out of the breeding pool. There's maybe 1 real cull deer every 3 years on about 1000 acres where I grew up hunting. Now when friends and family go to a ranch in Texas on a million acres shooting 160+ class deer, there are tons of culls. The culls are 130 class, but the guides don't want them breeding. But that's just an insane place.